[net.news.group] fa.laser-lovers/mod.computers.laser-printers

furuta@umcp-cs.UUCP (Rick Furuta) (11/04/85)

As moderator of the laser-lovers newsgroup, I want to make a few comments
about the conversion of fa groups to mod groups.

mod.computers.laser-printers should now be receiving the laser-lovers
messages through a gateway loated at Berkeley.  For the moment, I have also
retained the fa.laser-lovers feed through uw-beaver.  Messages gatewayed in
at Berkeley seem to have different propagation patterns than those gatewayed
in at uw-beaver.  I am retaining both feeds for the moment to make sure that
those people who were reading fa.laser-lovers can also see
mod.computers.laser-printers and that unexpected delays are not introduced
in the amount of time it takes messages to reach them.  A number of
anti-social Usenet sites are presently dumping large numbers of error
messages on me.  When these quiet down and when I get a chance to poll the
Usenet readership to make sure that nothing unexpected has happened, I will
then be glad to remove the fa.laser-lovers feed leaving only the
mod.computers.laser-printers one.

I was one of the recipients of the original off-line messages proposing the
shift from fa.* groups to mod.* groups.  At the time of that discussion, I
did raise the question of why "laser-lovers" was being renamed
"laser-printers".  I didn't really get an answer that satisfied me but then
I also was too busy to push for one.  It now seems to me that the current
naming scheme has already been cast into concrete.  The laser-lovers name,
while admittedly cute, has been attached to the list for quite a long time.
I didn't choose the name (it predates my tenure as list moderator) but I
think that it has served us well.  For one, it has kept our charter broad.
We discuss more than the printers themselves, also discussing matters of
broader interest to those interested in laser-printers.  One example of an
interesting topic that falls under the "laser-lovers" aegis, but probably
not under the "laser-printers" one is that of font design.  Another is the
discussion of typesetter technology, which technically does not fall into
the category of laser printers but is of concern to those interested in
laser printers.

Long-term readers of laser-lovers (before it was gatewayed into the Usenet)
may recall that the question of whether or not to gateway into the Usenet
was one of some controversy.  On balance, I think that the move was to the
benefit of the list as a whole as I believe we picked up some half dozen to
dozen truly top rate contributors to the list.  However, I'd also have to
say that the ratio of top rate contributors to total readership is much
larger on the Arpanet side than on the Usenet side.  And Usenet readers seem
to have a shorter memory than Arpanet readers because of the transient
nature of Usenet articles.  Still, Usenet readers contribute enough to
laser-lovers that I feel it'd be a bit pointless to refuse to gateway
laser-lovers into Usenet.

In summary, I would prefer if the list were named something other than
mod.computers.laser-printers since both the "computers" part and the
"laser-printers" part seem inaccurate in describing what the list has been
used for in the past and because the naming doesn't retain the
correspondence between the two lists.  However, the unfortunate reality of
Usenet is that it is very hard to make a decision and even harder to change
one once it's been made.  Whatever the eventual name for the group, my
commitment is to do whatever I can to make sure that the group's messages
are posted and distributed in a timely fashion.

				--Rick