ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) (04/19/91)
I have written an 8088 interpreter in C that runs on SPARCs and probably other machines. It also simulates enough I/O gear of the IBM PC that you can run MINIX 1.1 on the simulator. The simulator is not perfect, but still may be of some interest. It will not run MS-DOS because MS-DOS needs a BIOS, and the BIOS is copyrighted, so it is not included in the simulator. If you provide your own BIOS, it might work. This has never been tried. The simulator is available only by FTP. It is on ftp.cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42) in directory minix/simulator. There is also other minix stuff in minix/* as well as amoeba stuff in amoeba/* (Amoeba is a distributed operating system). All the directories have READ_ME files explaining what's in them. Everything in all the directories is copyright. Permission is hereby granted to upload and use the files for educational and research use only. Other use requires written permission from the copyright owner. Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)
jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) (04/21/91)
>Everything in all the directories is copyright. Permission is hereby >granted to upload and use the files for educational and research use only. >Other use requires written permission from the copyright owner. > > >Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl) Ah well, when seeing the subject in comp.archives, I thought somebody had finally written a free Intel processor emulator, with free meaning it can be copied, made better, used for whatever purpose, sold, source available, etc. But not so, it appears I can't run a game on it if the game is not educational or I'm not doing research about the game or the emulator. Anyway, thanks for the emulator, I'll probably try it sometime on my pc532 (what would be nicer than running 8088 Minix on top of pc532 minix ;-). But would people please use words with a more precice meaning in the subjects, so they wouldn't give wrong impressions to readers. I don't consider a program free if I'm the program can't be freely used to run anything on it, ie. there are this restrictions as strict as not being able to use it for anything other than educational and research use only. //Jyrki
root@minixug.mugnet.org (MINIXUG-ONLINE System Manager) (04/25/91)
In article <9764@star.cs.vu.nl>, ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) wrote: > I have written an 8088 interpreter in C that runs on SPARCs and probably > other machines. It also simulates enough I/O gear of the IBM PC that > you can run MINIX 1.1 on the simulator. The simulator is not perfect, > but still may be of some interest. It will not run MS-DOS because > MS-DOS needs a BIOS, and the BIOS is copyrighted, so it is not included > in the simulator. If you provide your own BIOS, it might work. This > has never been tried. I have a free (PD, boys!) BIOS for PC's at "minixug". Since it's assembler source, it is quite large, but working... :-) > The simulator is available only by FTP. It is on ftp.cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42) > in directory minix/simulator. There is also other minix stuff in minix/* > as well as amoeba stuff in amoeba/* (Amoeba is a distributed operating system). > All the directories have READ_ME files explaining what's in them. > > Everything in all the directories is copyright. Permission is hereby > granted to upload and use the files for educational and research use only. > Other use requires written permission from the copyright owner. Uhh, Andy? What about me making it available for those of us without FTP access? I am willing to create the ~ftp/vu_stuff directory over here... Fred.
ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) (04/26/91)
In article <9104234039@minixug.mugnet.org> root@minixug.mugnet.org (MINIXUG-ONLINE System Manager) writes: >Uhh, Andy? What about me making it available for those of us without >FTP access? I am willing to create the ~ftp/vu_stuff directory over >here... Ok. You can copy the simulator over there and make it available to non FTP customers. Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)
waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org (Fred 'The Rebel' van Kempen) (04/28/91)
ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) wrote: > I have written an 8088 interpreter in C that runs on SPARCs and probably > other machines. It also simulates enough I/O gear of the IBM PC that > you can run MINIX 1.1 on the simulator. The simulator is not perfect, > but still may be of some interest. It will not run MS-DOS because > MS-DOS needs a BIOS, and the BIOS is copyrighted, so it is not included > in the simulator. If you provide your own BIOS, it might work. This > has never been tried. I have a free (PD, boys!) BIOS for PC's at "minixug". Since it's assembler source, it is quite large, but working... :-) > The simulator is available only by FTP. It is on ftp.cs.vu.nl (192.31.231.42) > in directory minix/simulator. There is also other minix stuff in minix/* > as well as amoeba stuff in amoeba/* (Amoeba is a distributed operating system). > All the directories have READ_ME files explaining what's in them. > > Everything in all the directories is copyright. Permission is hereby > granted to upload and use the files for educational and research use only. > Other use requires written permission from the copyright owner. Uhh, Andy? What about me making it available for those of us without FTP access? I am willing to create the ~ftp/vu_stuff directory over here... Fred. -- MicroWalt Corporation, for MINIX Development waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org Tel (+31) 252 230 205, Hoefbladhof 27, 2215 DV VOORHOUT, The Netherlands "An Operating System is what the _USERS_ think of it- me"
root@minixug.mugnet.org (MINIXUG-ONLINE System Manager) (04/28/91)
ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) wrote: > In article <9104234039@minixug.mugnet.org> root@minixug.mugnet.org (MINIXUG-ONLINE System Manager) writes: >>Uhh, Andy? What about me making it available for those of us without >>FTP access? I am willing to create the ~ftp/vu_stuff directory over >>here... > Ok. You can copy the simulator over there and make it available to > non FTP customers. OK, I will do so tonight. Fred.
swh@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Steve Harrold) (04/29/91)
>>> I have a free (PD, boys!) BIOS for PC's at "minixug". Since it's >>> assembler source, it is quite large, but working... :-) -------- Sounds great!! Can you post the IP address of minixug.mugnet.org for those of use who have anonftp capability? Thanks.
overby@plains.NoDak.edu (Glen Overby) (05/04/91)
In article <68460003@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> swh@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Steve Harrold) writes: >Can you post the IP address of minixug.mugnet.org for those of use who >have anonftp capability? They don't have one. ftp.cs.vu.nl has the bits in an anonymous ftp directory. mugnet.org is a MX (internet Mail Exchanger) domain with plains.nodak.edu acting as their forwarder (for a little while yet). "You can't get there from here" -- pathalias(1L) -- Glen Overby <overby@plains.nodak.edu> uunet!plains!overby (UUCP) overby@plains (Bitnet)
waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org (Fred 'The Rebel' van Kempen) (05/20/91)
swh@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Steve Harrold) wrote: >>>> I have a free (PD, boys!) BIOS for PC's at "minixug". Since it's >>>> assembler source, it is quite large, but working... :-) > -------- > Sounds great!! > > Can you post the IP address of minixug.mugnet.org for those of use who > have anonftp capability? Everytime something like this comes up, it amazes me to see all those non-European people thinking that the whole world is Internetworked.... Seriously, guys. I'd love an InterEUnet connection, but MUGNET cannot yet afford that- maybe in the future, if all goes well.. :-) I will fetch the 'MSDOS PDstuff III' tape from my vault tomorrow, and upload the PD BIOS to plains.NoDak.EDU , directory ftp_contrib. Fred. -- MicroWalt Corporation, for MINIX Development waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org Tel (+31) 252 230 205, Hoefbladhof 27, 2215 DV VOORHOUT, The Netherlands "An Operating System is what the _USERS_ think of it- me"
waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org (Fred 'The Rebel' van Kempen) (05/20/91)
overby@plains.NoDak.edu (Glen Overby) wrote: > In article <68460003@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> swh@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Steve Harrold) writes: >>Can you post the IP address of minixug.mugnet.org for those of use who >>have anonftp capability? > > They don't have one. ftp.cs.vu.nl has the bits in an anonymous ftp directory. > > mugnet.org is a MX (internet Mail Exchanger) domain with plains.nodak.edu > acting as their forwarder (for a little while yet). Exactly. > "You can't get there from here" > -- pathalias(1L) Nope. Several people from overseas (I have a line tracer connected to the modem line, sooo... :-) dialed in to get a look of what this system is all about. Looking at their login durations, they found lots of stuff :-) About the PD BIOS: see one of my prev msgs... Fred. -- MicroWalt Corporation, for MINIX Development waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org Tel (+31) 252 230 205, Hoefbladhof 27, 2215 DV VOORHOUT, The Netherlands "An Operating System is what the _USERS_ think of it- me"