[comp.os.minix] Copyright and Prentice-Hall

eesrajm@cc.brunel.ac.uk (Andrew J Michael) (05/25/91)

I've just got back from a couple of weeks away to find the net full of 
articles about Fred van Kempen and Prentice-Hall.  My first reaction was
`Oh no - it's "Your Articles Sold for Cash" all over again, with the same
degree of ranting and uninformed comment'.

Let's try to address this in a sensible fashion, and see exactly what is
happening here.

Firstly, Fred is _NOT_ in the business of giving away free copies of MINIX,
regardless of what some people might think.  P-H would be very unhappy
about that idea, and I'm sure that Fred would be the first to agree with
them.

Fred has produced an enhanced version of MINIX, partly from net postings and 
partly his own efforts.  He has then offered to make that available to those
people who can prove (by producing a boot disk) that they have a genuine
licensed copy of MINIX.  In fact by insisting on a P-H boot disk, he has 
denied access to those people who, quite legally, use a copied MINIX in
accordance with P-H's own copying restrictions.  This all sounds pretty
reasonable to me.

The MINIX Centre has written permission from P-H to supply "upgrades and
enhancements" to MINIX.  I presume that Fred has the same type of agreement.
In that case I don't see what Fred is doing wrong.

However, P-H see things differently.  I suspect that part of this is due to
the fact that Fred used the word "MINIX" in the title of his enhanced version.
"MINIX" is a trademark of P-H, who don't like other people using it without
permission.

What is far more worrying is that P-H seem to be objecting to the distribution
of code in Fred's version which they consider to be covered by their copyright.
Let's just consider this for a moment.  No-one can deny that MINIX-1.5 is a 
vast improvement over MINIX-1.1.  Equally well, I don't think that many people
would disagree that a lot of that improvement is due to the efforts of people
on the net, especially Bruce Evans.  These improvements and bug-fixes have
been posted to the net over the years, and eventually found their way into
MINIX-1.5.  But when MINIX-1.5 appeared, all this code was covered by the
blanket P-H copyright.  P-H's attitude seems to be that any code originally 
posted to the net by Bruce and now incorporated into MINIX-1.5 cannot be 
redistributed - even by Bruce !!    This seems pretty ridiculous to me.

Perhaps part of the problem is that P-H is a publishing firm, not a software
house.  For this reason they don't understand upgrades.  After all, when you
buy a second edition of a book you have to buy it in its entirety, not just
the bits which have changed.  They seem to be applying this principle to
MINIX as well.

I also suggest that P-H should look to their own behaviour before accusing 
others of breaking copyright.  The following is from src/lib/other/regexp.c -

 *      Copyright (c) 1986 by University of Toronto.
 *      Written by Henry Spencer.  Not derived from licensed software.
 *
 *      Permission is granted to anyone to use this software for any
 *      purpose on any computer system, and to redistribute it freely,
 *      subject to the following restrictions:
 *
 *      1. The author is not responsible for the consequences of use of
 *              this software, no matter how awful, even if they arise
 *              from defects in it.
 *
 *      2. The origin of this software must not be misrepresented, either
 *              by explicit claim or by omission.

It's funny, but I don't see any reference to Henry Spencer in the MINIX-1.5 
copyright messages.  P-H might also care to look at the copyright in
src/commands/more.c as well.  To see how others do it, look at the stream of
copyright messages produced by Dell UNIX SVR4 when it boots.

I think it's about time P-H got their act together on this one.  They've had 
long enough to think about it, after all.  P-H must realise that they are
making a lot of money out of the net's improvements to MINIX, and if they
continue in this fashion it is P-H who will be the losers in the end.

I'll get down off my soapbox now .....

Andy Michael







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