[net.music] List of fully-digital

gts@wjh12.UUCP (G. T. Samson) (09/14/85)

Does anyone out there have a list of the CD's that are really totally
digital?  That is, if the package has markings on the back, they should
be "DDD".   Is there a list that's commercially produced?  If not, can
someone put it together?

Thanks muchly.

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bourne@cwruecmp.UUCP (Dave Bourne) (09/16/85)

> Does anyone out there have a list of the CD's that are really totally
> digital?  That is, if the package has markings on the back, they should
> be "DDD".   Is there a list that's commercially produced?  If not, can
> someone put it together?
> 
> Thanks muchly.
> 		G. T. Samson

	Let me assume that one of the reasons Mr. Samson is requesting
	this list is because a CD labelled DDD inherently sounds
	better than one labelled ADD or AAD.  If this isn't the case,
	I wanted to make the following point anyway!

	I hate to rain on your parade, but just because the CD says
	DDD doesn't mean it's going to produce sonic perfection, or
	have a total absence of hiss for that matter.

	A few cases in point:

		My copy of Glassworks by Philip Glass on the CBS label
	says it's a digital recording, which should make the SPARS code
	DDD or DAD.  However, the first track could convince a deaf man
	that the digital master wasn't used when it came time to make
	the CD.

		On the other hand, the Fresh Aire series by Mannheim
	Steamroller on American Grammophone, Dark Side of the Moon
	and Meddle by Pink Floyd on Harvest, and some analog recordings
	on the Windham Hill label (George Winston and Liz Story, for
	instance) have "successfully" made the transfer to CD with
	almost unnoticeable amounts of hiss.

		The moral of the story is:  It doesn't matter how much
	quality went into the original engineering of the recording 
	(digital or analog), if the CD master tape is produced from
	an N-th generation analog tape, the CD is going to sound like
	$#@&?!.

		As for Mr. Samson's original request, ALL Telarc discs
	are DDD and I've never been disappointed with the sound quality
	on any of my Telarcs.  The liner notes tell how Telarc makes
	the transfers...the right way.  On the other hand, I would be
	wary of any CBS CD, DDD or otherwise.  Most of the sound quality
	ratings in Digital Audio for CBS disks, DDD or otherwise, are
	very low.
			
					dave bourne
				at
					decvax!cwruecmp!bourne

wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) (09/18/85)

Re the CD code of "DDD" not guaranteeing freedom from hiss and suchlike
analog-derived defects, due to the digital master being made from analog
tape that might be "n"th generation:

Mayhap we need a new code, like "DDDD" or "Completely Digital" ["CD"!]
that means that there were never *any* analog intermediate stages at all
between the initial A-to-D conversion after the air-borne sounds created
microphone voltages (or electronic devices generated signals that fed
into the mixer board) and the D-to-A conversion in your home CD or PCM
player device?

That is, all recording, editing, and mix-down/processing/sweetening/whatever
was done in the digital domain. No analog conversions and redigitizing
of any kind ever happened (of course, there would be D-to-A for
monitoring; these converted signals would then only be listened to, never
re-recorded).

Is this possible with current technology? If possible, is it so
expensive, or the equipment so rare or hard to use, that it is very
seldom done? Are there any commercially-available recordings that would
qualify for this designation currently available?

Will