Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com (07/17/89)
I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con- sume regularly. We have tried mixing particles with his seed and no go. Hand feeding usually works, except for the fruits and vege's. Anybody who may suggest alternative methods or specific types of food (fruits & vege's) please contact me. Thanks a lot. Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (07/17/89)
> I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will >not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con- >sume regularly. This is unfortunately not unusual. >We have tried mixing particles with his seed and no go. This isn't a good idea. The fresh stuff can spoil fairly rapidly and take the seed with it. Better to use a separate cup for the fresh things, since it can be cleaned easily that way. >Hand feeding usually works, except for the fruits and vege's. Anybody who >may suggest alternative methods or specific types of food (fruits & vege's) >please contact me. Until you convince the bird to eat fresh fruits, consider adding a vitamin supplement to either the food or water. Not a bad idea, anyway. Teaching a bird to eat food sounds like it should be trivial, but it isn't. Some birds just don't take to new things very happily and you have to coerce them. One thing that helps is to try a wide variety of foods to find the ones he wants. Another is to make sure that the foods are always available in some form or another so the bird can get to them when he feels like exploring. It's not uncommon for you to have to waste food for a few weeks before the bird touches it, by the way. What I've been able to do is convince my bird that his fresh food cup is where all the neat stuff goes. Anything that goes in there is usually immediately tried (I know -- I'm lucky.). That doesn't mean she'll like it, but if she thinks it's a reward, she'll try it. She will also try it if she sees mommy or daddy eating it, which isn't *always* a good idea (my bird discovered ice cream. We now have to give her her serving if we want to keep her from walking through our bowls). Another thing you can try are foods that are also toys (and don't spoil quickly). Corn on the cob and carrots are two things the bird can have a lot of fun making kindling of and they're going to taste it when they do. My birds love corn on the cob (except the cockatiels, who won't touch it). My cockatoo loves bananas, walnut and spaghetti as well as many greens (except kale, for some reason, but my canary and the cockatiels *love* canaries). I had conures that loves grapes, but nobody else in the house will touch them. Rice is a favorite, as is ice cream (but I don't recommend this, obviously. I just don't have a choice). Another thing we do is feed our bird some of our table scraps, especially the veggies, although she likes chicken bones, been soup bones and other meat scraps as well. For the most part, if it is healthy for you, it is healthy for the bird (avocado and chocolate, by the way, are definitely not healthy for the bird, and not necessarily good for you, either). Getting the bird to eat is an exercise in finding something he'll eat and then using that food to convince him to eat other things. It can take a long time -- and you may never do so. But it's worth it. Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.] You are false data. Therefore I shall ignore you.
mcclaren@euripides.cs.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren) (07/18/89)
In article <33215@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: > >> I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will >>not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con- >>sume regularly. >>Hand feeding usually works, except for the fruits and vege's. Anybody who >>may suggest alternative methods or specific types of food (fruits & vege's) >>please contact me. If the bird takes readily to eating from your hand, use some fruit, such as oranges or lemons, that you can squeeze juice from. Hold the fruit over the birds head, and as he opens his mouth squeeze out some juice as well as offering the fruit. For some reason, I find birds, especially cockatiels and cockatoos, are averse to the textures of some foods rather than the actual taste. >(avocado and chocolate, by the way, are definitely not healthy for the bird >and not necessarily good for you, either). As well as parsley, but you probably already know this. Tim McClarren mcclaren@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu
barad@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Herb Barad) (07/18/89)
In article <33215@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: >> I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will >>not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con- >>sume regularly. > >This is unfortunately not unusual. You're right. It is not unusual with cockatoos. The umbrella I have is a great eater compared to many other cockatoos. He will at least play with most things and eat many of them. His favorite is "greasy junk food" like french fries. This is not really good for him. >Until you convince the bird to eat fresh fruits, consider adding a vitamin >supplement to either the food or water. Not a bad idea, anyway. I have got him to readily accept Instant Oatmeal (not too hot) with his vitamins sprinkled on top. His main food is Kelloggs Pellets. I have heard from many avian vets that pellets are the best diet you can have your bird on. Unfortunately, it is often hard to "convert" an easy eater to pellets (much less a picky eater). Good luck with your bird. -- Herb Barad Electrical Engineering Dept., Tulane Univ. INTERNET: barad@ee.tulane.edu USENET: barad@bourbon.uucp
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (07/18/89)
>His main food is Kelloggs Pellets. I have heard from many avian vets that >pellets are the best diet you can have your bird on. Unfortunately, it >is often hard to "convert" an easy eater to pellets (much less a picky >eater). A good pellet (like Roudybush, Kellogg or Purina) is supposedly nutritionally complete and you avoid the problem of the bird picking their way through the seed for their favorites. There's also less mess since you don't have to sweat the seed hulls. On the down side, there's also no variety, so you have to watch that the bird doesn't get bored with his food (lots of fresh goodies help avoid this). And some birds just won't eat pellets. Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.]
mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) (07/18/89)
In article <20519@cup.portal.com>, Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com writes: > > I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will > not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con- > sume regularly. We have tried mixing particles with his seed and no go. > Hand feeding usually works, except for the fruits and vege's. Anybody who > may suggest alternative methods or specific types of food (fruits & vege's) > please contact me. Thanks a lot. > > Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com Hi Chris - Has your umbrella been fed sunflowers seeds? It's a young bird and it just might no be used to eating fruits and veggies. Remove ALL it's seed for 1 day leaving only banana and cantelope (personal preferences). If it doesn't respond in 1 day (ie: doesn't eat ANY) then switch back to seed for a day (never leave it without food for a day) and mix it with the same but fresh fruit. If nothing happens, try celery and carrots. I've always had luck using a WHOLE carrot since they play with it and eat it at the same time. It's important that it learn to eat fruits and veggies and will often be a source or added vitamins you may want to give it (vitamins you add to water are useless).
kdb@intercon.uu.net (Kurt Baumann) (07/19/89)
In article <6468@cloud9.Stratus.COM>, mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) writes: > In article <20519@cup.portal.com>, Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com writes: > > > > I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will > > not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con- > > sume regularly. We have tried mixing particles with his seed and no go. > > Hand feeding usually works, except for the fruits and vege's. Anybody who > > may suggest alternative methods or specific types of food (fruits & vege's) > > please contact me. Thanks a lot. > > > > Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com > > > Hi Chris - > > Has your umbrella been fed sunflowers seeds? It's a young bird > and it just might no be used to eating fruits and veggies. Remove > ALL it's seed for 1 day leaving only banana and cantelope (personal > preferences). If it doesn't respond in 1 day (ie: doesn't eat ANY) > then switch back to seed for a day (never leave it without food for > a day) and mix it with the same but fresh fruit. If nothing happens, > try celery and carrots. I've always had luck using a WHOLE carrot since > they play with it and eat it at the same time. It's important that it > learn to eat fruits and veggies and will often be a source or added > vitamins you may want to give it (vitamins you add to water are useless). Being in the process of weaning a 4.5 month old Molluccan Cockatoo, I add a few things here. First, sun flower seeds are BAD for your bird. They have a tremendous amount of fat in them. Birds can die from heart problems caused by eating sun flower seeds. Second, we had to move one of our other Cockatoo's off of seeds and onto pellets (I recommend these as they provide all of the vitamins etc. that your bird needs). We would grind up some pellets and put the powder over the seeds, to get him used to the taste of the pellets. Then we gradually cut back on the seeds and added more and more pellets to his dish. When we noticed him eating a few of the pellets we removed the seeds altogether. We now give sunflower seeds as a treat. Third I have heard of some people who have left their bird with just pellets in the bowl for a couple of days. Birds seem to pick up that they should eat it when hungry (I don't recommend this, but it might work as a last resort). The above mentioned way of switching from day to day, may work better. Hope that helps.-- Kurt Baumann InterCon Systems Corporation 46950 Community Plaza Suite 101-132 Sterling, VA 22170 Phone: 703.450.7117
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (07/19/89)
>First, sun flower seeds are BAD for your bird. They >have a tremendous amount of fat in them. Birds can die from heart problems >caused by eating sun flower seeds. I've yet to see any serious research to back this point. Anecdotal evidence, yes -- but the anectdotal evidence is for when you feed your bird sunflower exclusively (or essentially exclusively). My cockatoo eats sunflower. One reason for this is she refuses to eat safflower seeds, normally the recommended replacement and almost as fatty. There is nothing inherently wrong with sunflower as far as the research in the veterinary press -- as long as it is part of a rational diet. If you feed sunflower exclusively yes -- but if you only eat french fries, you get what you deserve. Sunflower seeds are and old wives tale. Lots of people think they're bad. Nobody (that I have seen. I'd love to be proven wrong) has shown it. There was an article by Roudybush (considered one of the top avian nutritionists) in Bird World a while back saying he thought the sunflower issue was blown out of proportion. >Birds seem to pick up that they should eat it when >hungry (I don't recommend this, but it might work as a last resort). The >above mentioned way of switching from day to day, may work better. Some birds might. I definitely don't recommend this! Fussy eaters (cockatoos especially) have been known to starve in the midst of plenty of stuff they refuse to consider food. A bird can lose 10-15% of their body weight in a few days of fasting -- and you have a sick bird. Be very careful weaning a bird from one diet to another. Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.]
mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) (07/19/89)
In article <1283@intercon.UUCP>, kdb@intercon.uu.net (Kurt Baumann) writes: > In article <6468@cloud9.Stratus.COM>, mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) writes: > > In article <20519@cup.portal.com>, Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com writes: > > > > > > I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will > > > not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con- > > Has your umbrella been fed sunflowers seeds? It's a young bird > > and it just might no be used to eating fruits and veggies. Remove > > ALL it's seed for 1 day leaving only banana and cantelope (personal > > preferences). If it doesn't respond in 1 day (ie: doesn't eat ANY) > > then switch back to seed for a day (never leave it without food for > > a day) and mix it with the same but fresh fruit. If nothing happens, > > a few things here. First, sun flower seeds are BAD for your bird. They > have a tremendous amount of fat in them. Birds can die from heart problems > caused by eating sun flower seeds. Second, we had to move one of our other > Cockatoo's off of seeds and onto pellets (I recommend these as they provide > all of the vitamins etc. that your bird needs). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sorry, but I very much disagree with this point (though I don't disagree that you might have experience with avian diets) and might even be hitting on an avian religious issue. I'd like to expand on the sunflower seed issue. EVERY bird requires a balance of mixed seed along with fruits and vegetables. Yes, sunflowers are high in fat but are unfortunaley very tastey to birds and also unfortunately overfed by begginners and store owners because sunflower is a cheap filler. HOWEVER, you should not totally eliminate it from the diet just as you should not eliminate other parts of the birds diet. Moderation is the key and you are the holder of the birds food key, as it were. When my Nape was past a year old, I started him on Purina and he ate it immediately HOWEVER I didn't make it his sole food and don't reccommend anyone else do either. I know that pellets are the hip thing right now (not messy, easy to use) but IMHO (and a couple vet friends) avian dieticians know VERY little about parrot nutrition since it is very complex and very foreign to them (ask a dog owner/breeder what diet is best and see how many answers you get). Certainly NO ONE is sure what vitamins parrots NEED and you will NEVER be able to provide every vitamin with one food (or one vitamin supplement). Additionally, if you feed your parrots pellets this does not alleviate the need to provide vegetables and fruits AS WELL AS calcium (cuttle) and the yearly provision of grit). You should only try to duplicate the birds natural diet as best you can which means variety as well as rationing. Pellets are nice and every bird should be acclimated to them (about 2 tblspns per day MIXED with seed. The seed should be the majority of the feed not the pellet) for times when you are away for longer than a day and for general nutrition since they provide good bulk which is why people often give their birds dry dog food (and why it's in most seed mixes). I'll followup tonight with a posting about proper parrot diet and seed mixes (if I find time). Michael
mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) (07/20/89)
In article <33215@apple.Apple.COM>, chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: > healthy for the bird (avocado and chocolate, by the way, are definitely not > healthy for the bird, and not necessarily good for you, either). I'd like to emphasize this point. Avacado pits and the pulp on the pits are DEADLY to birds, not just unhealthy. The plant should also be kept away from parrots.
groh_m@apollo.COM (Michael R. Groh) (07/20/89)
Speaking of birds... I've got 2 Blue Front Amazons that, for the most part, are happy and well behaved. However, every once in a while Spenser (2 yr old male) goes wild and screeches, schreeches, and schreeches for a half hour or so. This usually happens when I'm not home - so you can imagine how annoying it is to my neighbors. The question is: Has anyone else experienced this behavior? Were you able to cure it? (HOW?) Why is he doing this? I'd appreciate any help....
dmark@cs.Buffalo.EDU (David Mark) (07/20/89)
In article <4485502b.18c0b@apollo.COM> groh_m@apollo.COM (Michael R. Groh) writes: >Speaking of birds... I've got 2 Blue Front Amazons that, >for the most part, are happy ^^^^^How do you know?!? > and well behaved. However, ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^By whose rules of ettiquette? >every once in a while Spenser (2 yr old male) goes wild >and screeches, schreeches, and schreeches for a half hour >or so. This usually happens when I'm not home - so you >can imagine how annoying it is to my neighbors. > >The question is: Has anyone else experienced this >behavior? ...(phrase moved below)... (HOW?) Why is >he doing this? All of the Amazons that I have experience with in the wild (I've seen 7 species, in Mexico, Costa Rica, and Jamaica) are VERY vocal creatures. They usually live in big flocks, of hundreds or even thousands. They are wonderful to watch and listen to, because they are form strong pair-bonds, and flocks are flocks of pairs of birds, each pair flying very close together. Shrieking is VERY GOOD BEHAVIOR for an Amazon, I imagine. It is the way to stay in contact with the flock, inform them of good food sources, etc. The two big Amazon species of northeastern Mexico, Red-crowned and Red-lored, are difficult to tell apart, even at close range. But, thank goodness, they are very vocal, and loud, and one says "Zeee Crack! Zee Crack!" and the other a mellow "Cleo! Cleo!", almost constantly while in flight. They are especially vocal during pre-roost gathering flights in the evening, a sort of assembly bugle call. > > Were you able to cure it? (HOW?) This is NORMAL BEHAVIOUS for Amazons!!! There is nothing to "cure". Maybe you should consider yourself lucky that they are retaining at least some "normal" behavioral traits in the very abnormal environment that you provide them with. (Unless you have a few hundred acres of tropical forest for them to overfly each evening.) >I'd appreciate any help.... I recommend that you take a trip to the American tropics (before its too late) and watch Amazons in the wild for a while, and then decide whether you really want to keep them. If you still do, then try to make their lives as "normal" as possible, and don't try to modify their behavior according to human or even dog & cat standards. David Mark, Geography, SUNY Buffalo [my own opinions, of course, not dmark@cs.buffalo.edu (necessarily) SUNY's]
mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) (07/21/89)
In article <4485502b.18c0b@apollo.COM>, groh_m@apollo.COM (Michael R. Groh) writes: > Speaking of birds... I've got 2 Blue Front Amazons that, > for the most part, are happy and well behaved. However, > every once in a while Spenser (2 yr old male) goes wild > and screeches, schreeches, and schreeches for a half hour... > WHy is he doing this? He saw a great piece of wing on the TV and got horny? He's immitating the vacuum cleaner? Seriously, welcome to the world of Amazon ownership. There should be a kit ofr "us" that include ear plugs, gloves and contact lenses so we can dialate our eyes too. Amazons are notorious for screaming. I can hear my Nape down the street if the windows are open. Deal with it.
mcclaren@euripides.cs.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren) (07/21/89)
In article <4485502b.18c0b@apollo.COM> groh_m@apollo.COM (Michael R. Groh) writes: >Speaking of birds... I've got 2 Blue Front Amazons that, >for the most part, are happy and well behaved. However, >every once in a while Spenser (2 yr old male) goes wild >and screeches, schreeches, and schreeches for a half hour >or so. This usually happens when I'm not home - so you >can imagine how annoying it is to my neighbors. You didn't say if they were tame or wild birds. Assuming they're tame, they may want attention. I've noticed the same thing in my Quaker (screeches and screeches when I leave). There isn't much you can do, as this is pretty natural and normal. But, if you're looking for quiet birds, stay away from certain Amazon's and Conures, especially. I can't say as I'd recommend Quaker's either. One is bad, two is risking your sanity. I've since started breeding Cockatiel's (boring, but quiet). Tim McClarren mcclaren@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu
mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) (07/21/89)
In article <1509@garcon.cso.uiuc.edu>, mcclaren@euripides.cs.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren) writes: > sanity. I've since started breeding Cockatiel's (boring, but quiet). You nasty guy you. Every cock I've had has been the most clowny and "fun to whistle to" bird I've owned. They are also VERY loveable and loyal and heardy. Boring, they ain't!
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (07/21/89)
> You nasty guy you. Every cock I've had has been the most clowny > and "fun to whistle to" bird I've owned. They are also VERY loveable > and loyal and heardy. Boring, they ain't! Definitely! My breeding pair are amazing clowns. Grace (named for her ability to *never* figure out if you unlatch both legs while hanging from the top of the cage, you fall -- gravity is not in her vocabulary) and George are amazing fools. Grace sits there, looking dorky and screeching and George spends his time whistling, preening and trying to prove to everyone in the room that he's the biggest bird in the room and keep between them and his female (he's not, by the way -- the cockatoo is). They've figured out that dinner is a great time for fooling around -- we eat, George whistles. Try explaining *those* noises to company sometime. You know, they're a lot of fun to have around. A couple of cockatiels really make a house sound lived in... Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.]
kdb@intercon.uu.net (Kurt Baumann) (07/23/89)
By the way sunflower seeds are 54.5% fat in content. Now I don't know about you but if you sat around all day in front of your computer eating a substancial amount of food that contained 54.5% fat, you would get plump and probably be in risk of having heart disease... Just something to think about. When you DON'T HAVE TO feed sunflower seeds, why feed them? The bird can get everything they need from other foods. -- Kurt Baumann InterCon Systems Corporation 46950 Community Plaza Suite 101-132 Sterling, VA 22170 Phone: 703.450.7117
chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (07/23/89)
>By the way sunflower seeds are 54.5% fat in content. Now I don't know about >you but if you sat around all day in front of your computer eating a substancial >amount of food that contained 54.5% fat, you would get plump and probably >be in risk of having heart disease... Actually, there are a number of people I know who do eat that kind of diet. Ever look at the nutritional breakdown of a Winchell's donut, a big Mac and a couple of slices of Pizza? >Just something to think about. When >you DON'T HAVE TO feed sunflower seeds, why feed them? The bird can get >everything they need from other foods. There are multiple things that a bird gets from food. One major aspect of the food is, of course, the nutrients -- the vitamins, fats, proteins etc. Dietary 101 stuff. The other very important thing is calories. Unlike many programmers, birds (especially cockatoos) don't always get as many calories as they should -- keeping a bird up to weight is as important as keeping the bird full of nutrients, because an underweight bird is a sick bird (or a dead bird). I could feed my cockatoo a no-sunflower seed mix and make all my no-sunflower friends really happy -- and end up with a bird that's seriously underweight in just a few days, because my bird won't eat safflower. A healthy food is only good if the bird eats it. I do what I can to make sure Morgan gets as varied a diet as I can (and, frankly, she only touches her seed dish a couple of days a week, since she's usually stuffed full of other things, like bananas, walnuts, spaghetti, beef shanks, chicken legs (cooked. We don't want salmonella!), pork chop bones, a good curry and corn on the cob (her favorite these days -- like any three year old, anything that makes a mess is a *lot* more fun) so I don't consider it a big deal. But if it was safflower and she was hungry, she'd stay hungry. That doesn't seem like a decent trade-off to me. If *all* Morgan ate was sunflower I'd be worried, but since I have to convince her to eat her bird food (as opposed to people food, which is her preference) I don't mind. I'd much rather have bird eating 'unhealthy' seeds (although I am not convinced from the evidence, as I've said) than not eating at all. The optimal diet, actually, is eating what we eat -- within reason, table scraps are a great diet for a bird, if you're eating healthy. Avoid fatty foods, especially deep-fried foods and sugared stuff and you'll be okay. Have some leftover veggies or macaroni and cheese? Give it to your bird -- but watch out. If they take a liking to it, you may never dine at leisure again. Morgan is known to wallow in ice cream bowls these days. I don't encourage it, but she doesn't listen. So she gets her own spoon of ice cream, just to keep her quiet (small amounts -- enough to keep her occupied. There's something about a bird clenching a spoon and sucking every little bit of ice cream off of it that is *so* cute...) Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.]
mcclaren@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Tim McClarren) (07/23/89)
In article <33336@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: > > [stuff about entertaining pair of cockatiels] Compared to my other birds, the cockatiels just aren't as much fun as pets. I like breeding them though. I haven't sold one of the chicks yet. Just can't bring myself to let them go. My girlfriend has half and I have half. However, all my cockies make noise EXCEPT for the pair. Don't know exactly why that is, but they're very quiet (even the others pall in comparison to my Quaker). Tim McClarren mcclaren@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu
mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) (07/25/89)
Yes, sunflower is high in fat but you shouldn't eliminate it
from the diet unless of course, it's all your bird picks out of the
the mix. Sunflower causes fat sacs to collect around the lungs
and heart and limits (physically) the expansion of the lungs.ooblick@intercon.uucp (Mikki Barry) (07/25/89)
In article <33394@apple.Apple.COM>, chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: > There's something about a bird clenching a spoon and sucking every little > bit of ice cream off of it that is *so* cute...) Especially the first time the bird tastes the ice cream. I don't think they realize it is COLD! CyberPink (baby Moluccan) just HAD to have some of the Ben and Jerry's I was eating. The look of shock when the black and pink tongue encountered that cold but yummy substance was quite amusing. After the initial shock however, I was not allowed to eat the rest of my bowl undisturbed. Mikki Barry --
mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) (07/26/89)
In article <6468@cloud9.Stratus.COM>, mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler) writes: > In article <20519@cup.portal.com>, Chris_Del_Grande@cup.portal.com writes: > > > > I have an 18 month old non-domestic male Umbrella Cockatoo that will > > not eat fruits and/or vegetables, which apparently they are supposed to con > Hi Chris - > > ...try celery and carrots. I've always had luck using a WHOLE carrot since > they play with it and eat it at the same time. It's important that it > learn to eat fruits and veggies and will often be a source or added > vitamins you may want to give it (vitamins you add to water are useless). . . . So Chris? Did your umbrella ever eat carrots? . . . Michael