[rec.birds] how to synthesize bird calls and other animal communication

whillock@dienbienphu.SRC.Honeywell.COM (Rand Whillock) (08/03/89)

    One thing I have wanted to try is using a digital sampling
    keyboard (like Herbie Hancock uses) to sample bird calls and
    then play them back.  I know you get interesting results
    just playing a tape recording of the bird.  But it would
    be great to be able to choose a portion of a call or a specific
    call for a specific situation.  Check out the STOKES Bird
    behavior books for some listings of calls and behaviors.  As
    for actual call waveforms I have no idea where to look.

				Rand Whillock

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sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (08/03/89)

 In article <56570@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Mark Jansen 
<mark@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes:
 >
 >   Hello,
 >
 >   I am very curious about the structure of animal communication
 >   especially the more beautiful and complicated of the bird songs.
 >   I am looking for books and scientific articles that describe how
 >   to synthesize bird songs from scratch in a computer.  Certainly 
 >   a simple sine wave generator is not going to be sufficient.

I have an Amiga computer with a sound digitizer and software that lets you
graph the sound waves and play around with them, cut and paste, slow down,
speed up, mix, etc. 

I used it on my budgie. I recorded a few of his chirps. When I played them back
he went nuts. Started singing and flitting around his cage. After a while I
noticed that he would answer the recorded call with the same call. If I played
chirp 'A' he answered with a chirp 'A'. I talked to him for about 45 minutes.

After a while though he quit answering. I think he got wise that it wasn't a
real bird he was talking to.

 >
 >   And what is the structure of complicated bird song.  I have heard
 >   some rather general descriptions of breaking song into syllables 
 >   and then into longer repeating sequences but more specific 
 >   structure is what I am interested in.

His chirp graphed out to look about as complicated as you would see looking at
a similar graph of a human voice. Many harmonics. Looks like an EEG scribble.
It would be very difficult to synthesize such a sound from scrap.


 >
 >   Any help on this matter would be appreciated.
 >
 >   Thanks,

Your welcome.
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