reynolds@felix.UUCP (David Lee Reynolds) (09/27/89)
(This has also been posted to rec.pets) Well, this is my first time reading the rec.birds, and I was wondering if anyone out there has pet doves... Our story: My wife and I have two white doves that were used in our wedding in April. Things were going well, until we noticed that after 4 clutches of eggs that none of them were fertile! Well it turns out that they were both female! The problem is, now we bought two "Ring-neck" Males and the two white doves already think they are a "Pair", and are totally rejecting them... Josie and I have now separated the white doves, and clipped the right wing of the most aggressive female... This, at least, has stopped the pecking problem that the males were receiving, but still no sign of sexual interest in the males by the part of the female. Maybe only time will tell!! Our Questions: Does anyone have a better way of getting our doves to co-habitate? (Short of putting a divider/partition down the middle of my aviary, and sticking one of each sex in each side.)????? Does anyone know of a club/info group for dove owners and the like??? +------------------------+------------------------------------+ | David Reynolds | This Space For Rent | | BIFFNet Corp. | | | !hplabs!felix!reynolds | | | | | +------------------------+------------------------------------+ | Disclaimer: It's not BIFFNets' Fault, I only work for them! | +-------------------------------------------------------------+
bob@delphi.uchicago.edu (Bob Lewis) (09/28/89)
Lesbianism might sound bad to you, but sodomy is even worse. Are you sure the ``Ring-Necked males'' are the same species as the white females? I don't know anything about captive doves.
reynolds@felix.UUCP (David Lee Reynolds) (09/29/89)
In article <5559@tank.uchicago.edu> bob@delphi.UUCP writes: >Lesbianism might sound bad to you, but sodomy is even worse. ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ I had to check to make sure I was not in "rec.humor" ;-> >Are you sure the ``Ring-Necked males'' are the same species >as the white females? This of course is where my inept-ness in bird-tology comes in :-/ . I thought doves were doves. (With of course some "Breeds" being harder to "Cross-Breed" than others). The store owners, (where both pairs were purchased), seemed to feel that these two breeds will mate. The resulting mixture is called, "Pikes"??? >I don't know anything about captive doves. It seems to me that the very first person to write a DETAILED book on doves and pigeons will make millions!! The only 2 books I have found so far are written by the same author who explains breeding technics as, "Fun and enjoyable", end of explanation. No sexing description, no hints on environment, NOTHING!!! That is why I turned to your group, though the day after, I did notice that there was some postings discouraging the use of this group for "pet birds". My feeling was, "If anyone would know about the natural habitat/environment of doves, it would be a bird watching group..." Sorry for the waisted band width on this subject! (Gotta start reading those group ethics articles!!) Thanks for the interest! :-) +------------------------+------------------------------------+ | David Reynolds | | | BIFFNet Corp. | This space for rent............. | | !hplabs!felix!reynolds | | | | | +------------------------+------------------------------------+
mary@dinorah.wustl.edu (Mary E. Leibach) (10/03/89)
reynolds@felix.UUCP (David Lee Reynolds) writes: >In article <5559@tank.uchicago.edu> bob@delphi.UUCP writes: >>Lesbianism might sound bad to you, but sodomy is even worse. ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ > I had to check to make sure I was not in "rec.humor" ;-> You are not in "rec.humor", you are in "rec.bird.humor"! ;-) Cally was wondering what selling church offices had to do with female avian homosexuality, or even birds in general. Actually, birds in religion, specifically, avian symbology in theology and mythology could be an interesting subject. From the ravens of Odhinn, the swancoats of the Valkyrja, the eagle of the Native Americans, to the dove of the Holy Spirit, birds show up alot as religious motifs. Oh, well, back to the sexual habbits of the lovey dovies. -Mary, and Cally the Precocious Cockatiel(tm), and Vila the Cudly Conure(tm), and Blake the Beautiful Budgie(tm), and introducing Del and Dayna, the Fertile (we hope) Finches(tm)! Better known as Blake's Birds(tm)! Dedicated to the memory of the British SF show Blake's 7, and the liberty and rights of pet birds! Zebra Finch update: We have mating and nest building. These two don't fool around! (Or maybe they fool around too much... :-)
HF.GXS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Gail Smithson) (10/04/89)
This is in response to the question about doves. I once owned ring-neck doves and a white dove. I started with two ring-neck doves. I put them together and they faught. I then learned to sex them and found I had two males. If nobody has told you how to sex them yet, you hold them with two hands around the wings and body and bob them up and down. If the tail goes up its a female and it the tail goes down its a male. I then purchased a white female and paired her with one of the males and they proceeded to raise 3 clutches. One of their offspring was quite tame because I handled him a lot. Good luck! P.S. I think the net came to a consensus that we do not mind sharing the network with pet bird people. At least I don}t. I am a birder and I am also own pet birds. I find all aspects of brids fascinating. Gail Smithson