[rec.birds] JEWEL WEEDS AND HUMMINGBIRDS

arf@chinet.chi.il.us (Jack Schmidling) (09/17/89)

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             HUMMINGBIRDS AND JEWEL WEEDS 
 
 
Several hummingbirds have been regular visitors since my original posting.   
On one occasion I actually saw two at the same time.  One chased the other  
away. 
 
So far, only one other sighting in the Chicago area.  They are very rare in  
the big city.  That, of course is what makes them so exciting around here. 
 
The key to attracting hummers to places where they are rare is jewel weed  
(Impatiens capensis) also know as touch-me-not for the way the seed pods  
explode when touched. 
 
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I will repeat my offer of free seeds to anyone who would like their own  
private hummers.  Just send me a self addressed, stamped, BUSINESS SIZE,  
envelope and I will mail them out.  I still have plenty of them left. 
 
       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
 
I forgot to include planting instruction with the ones I already sent so  
here's the deal: 
 
I have not experimented with them because they self seed so easily.   
Consequently, I do not know if they require a dormant period or frost to  
germinate.  To be safe, I would leave them outside over winter.  On a back  
porch, between the storm window or in the car trunk. That's the way nature  
treats them so you couldn't go wrong. 
 
They do best in full sun but will flower even in total shade.  They wilt  
pathetically on hot sunny days but recover at night.  That would indicate to  
me that partial shade/sun would be preferred.  The amount of sun seems to  
have an effect on when they flower.  The more sun the sooner, so for max  
flower time, plant them all over. 
 
For the first year, I would plant them in one place for best effect.  The  
following year, you will have more seeds than you will know what to do with. 
                  .......................... 
 
The other exciting news is that I finally got one to use the nectar feeder  
that I have been religiously cleaning and filling every week for 5 years. 
 
The feeder is red and the jewel weeds are yelllow/orange, so I experimented  
by painting one of the plastic flowers with yellow stripes and I removed the  
bee guard, which happens to be yellow. 
 
The result was almost instantaneous.  Within an hour, a female was including  
the feeder on her regular rounds of the jewel weeds and is almost  
continuously somewhere in the yard as opposed to leaving for hours at a time. 
 
I have since painted the yellow stripes on all the plastic flowers.  She  
pokes at all the flowers now but only drinks from those without the bee  
guard. 
 
The fact that the bee guard is yellow convolutes the experiment but I feel  
pretty sure that the yellow stripes brought her to the feeder.  The bee  
guards are definately a hindrance to birds unaccustomed to them. 
 
Happy Humming! 
 
Jack Schmidling      
4501 Moody 
Chicago, Il 60630 
 

kan@cbnewse.ATT.COM (kathy.a.casali) (09/18/89)

In article <9599@chinet.chi.il.us>, arf@chinet.chi.il.us (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>  
>              HUMMINGBIRDS AND JEWEL WEEDS 
>  
> So far, only one other sighting in the Chicago area.  They are very rare in  
> the big city.  That, of course is what makes them so exciting around here. 
>  

I dont know where you get the information on sightings in the Chicago 
area. I live in the south suburbs. I put up humingbird feeders so
do my parents (2 blocks away), and my inlaws (.5 mile away), we
all get hummingbirds. The Chicago Audubon Society in a early spring
paper, had a article on them in this area along with a questionaire
to fill out about there summer activities. They are more common
than you think.

		Kathy
		

dune@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (Greg Pasquariello) (09/19/89)

I had an interesting hummer experience the other day.  I recently bought a
red plaid quilted flannel shirt that I wear in cool weather.  The shirt
has 1.5 inch squares of black, black-and-red, and red.  The red is really
bright too.  Anyway, this past week I was on my hawkwatch with it, and it
was a little warm, so I had it hanging on  a dead tree branch.  I should tell
you now that although hummers are not uncommon at our hawkwatch, when they are
seen, they are zipping thru at ludicrous speed.  This particular day however,
I managed to spot one as it was coming in off the horizon, and it blazed full
speed ahead straight for the shirt!  After a couple of seconds, apparently
satisfied that ths was not to be eaten, the tiny bird blew off never to be
seen again.

Greg Pasquariello
att!picuxa!gpasq

jklee@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (James Kin Wah Lee) (09/19/89)

In article <1919@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> dune@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (Greg Pasquariello) writes:
>I had an interesting hummer experience the other day.  I recently bought a
>red plaid quilted flannel shirt that I wear in cool weather.
>              [story deleted]
>This particular day however, I managed to spot one as it was coming in off
>the horizon, and it blazed full speed ahead straight for the shirt!

Interesting you mentioned this.  When I used to work in what is now
Bruce Peninsula National Park (in Canada), there was a great
little spot in a marsh that was quiet and full of cardinal flower
(Lobelia cardinalis).  Needless to say, this was a favourite hangout
for ruby-throated hummingbirds.  One of my correspondingly favourite
pastimes was to dress up in a (you guessed it) red flannel shirt
and sit quietly amongst the flora while the hummers would hover and
evaluate your "nectar potential".  I suppose they must have initially
thought that the huge red blob before them was God's gift to hummingbirds.
Got some nice photos that way, too. 

JIM
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arf@chinet.chi.il.us (Jack Schmidling) (09/19/89)

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Article 1325 in rec.birds: 
From: kan@cbnewse.ATT.COM (kathy.a.casali) 
Subject: Re: JEWELWEEDS AND HUMMINGBIRDS 
Keywords: free seed and how to 
 
In article <9599@chinet.chi.il.us>, arf@chinet.chi.il.us  
(Jack Schmidling) writes: 
 
> >             HUMMINGBIRDS AND JEWEL WEEDS 
 
>> So far, only one other sighting in the Chicago area.   
They are very rare in the big city.  That, of course is what  
makes them so exciting around here.  
 
Cathy says: 
 
>I dont know where you get the information on sightings in  
the Chicago area.  I live in the south suburbs. I put up  
humingbird feeders so do my parents (2 blocks away), and my  
in laws (.5 mile away), we all get hummingbirds. 
 
ARF says: 
 
I really don't want to get into a spitting contest with you  
but I did say "in the big city" and aside from an ocasional  
sighting in a forest preserve or park along the lake front  
they are extremely rare "in the city". 
 
I know of no one else who reports them in a private yard "in  
the city".   
 
Jack Schmidling (arf) 
 
 
p.s.  Another one showed up this morning but was quickly  
escorted out of the area by the female that "lives" here.   
This is the second time this has happened.  If this is  
typical behavior, I wonder how it is that they sometimes are  
seen by the numbers around feeders. 
 
Arf 

media@silver.bacs.indiana.edu (Institute for Digital Arts) (09/22/89)

> p.s.  Another one showed up this morning but was quickly
> escorted out of the area by the female that "lives" here.
> This is the second time this has happened.  If this is
> typical behavior, I wonder how it is that they sometimes are
> seen by the numbers around feeders.

Although I dont live in the Chicago area, I think I can comment on
this :-).  My mother has two feeders hanging in front of a picture
window in her house.  The hummingbirds come by the tens.  

They appear to be *very* territorial concerning the feeder.  
Sometimes it seems the birds spend more time trying to chase
each other away than they do feeding :-)  It is really pretty
amusing to watch six or eight birds, each trying to chase
the rest away from "its" feeder :-)

pam

arf@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) (07/26/90)

 
 
               JEWEL WEEDS AND HUMMINGBIRDS
 
 Last Fall, I sent packets of jewel weed (Impatiens capensis) 
 seeds to several dozen people on this net.  I absolutely 
 guaranteed that anyone who planted these seeds would have 
 hummingbirds next (this) Fall, even if they lived in the 
 middle of a major city.
 
 Well, if my lack of success in getting  these seeds to 
 germinate is typical, I don't expect a standing ovation.  I 
 kept two lots of these seeds; one spent the Winter on the 
 back porch exposed to weather and the other I kept in the 
 house.
 
 To determine dormancy requirements, I made germination tests 
 of both lots, on a monthly basis, from November through 
 July.  To my utter amazement, not one single seed 
 germinated.
 
 What I already know is that,  the original two plants 
 produced dozens the next Spring and each year there is an 
 exponential increase in the number of plants.  This year I 
 had to pull out thousands, they are so prolific, if just 
 left alone.
 
 Two questions:
 
 1.  Did anybody have any luck with the seeds I sent?
 
 2.  Does anybody have any idea why these seeds will not
     germinate?
 
 
 Jack Schmidling    arf@gagme