[rec.birds] Gloves for birding?

julie@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Julie Skeen) (03/14/91)

Hi,

I am new to this group, so I apologize if this topic has been covered
recently.  I am trying to find a good glove for use working with birds 
of prey.  Some of the people I know use welding gloves.  I would like 
to know if there are gloves made specifically for birding, or if I can 
find thick, long gloves that might fit a small womans hand better than 
most welding gloves.  Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

While I'm at it, I am also curious to know if many of you work with 
large birds, or if you ever have discussions about falconry.  I would
love to hear your stories.  If this topic doesn't seem to be of general
interest, please email me directly.

Thanks!

Julie Skeen

(503) 750-2896
julie@cv.hp.com

miken@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Mike Nickerson) (03/16/91)

julie@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Julie Skeen) asks:


> Hi,
> 
> I am new to this group, so I apologize if this topic has been covered
> recently.  I am trying to find a good glove for use working with birds 
> of prey.  Some of the people I know use welding gloves.  I would like 
> to know if there are gloves made specifically for birding, or if I can 
> find thick, long gloves that might fit a small womans hand better than 
> most welding gloves.  Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> While I'm at it, I am also curious to know if many of you work with 
> large birds, or if you ever have discussions about falconry.  I would
> love to hear your stories.  If this topic doesn't seem to be of general
> interest, please email me directly.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Julie Skeen

(503) 750-2896
julie@cv.hp.com
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My wife works with birds of prey also.  She mostly uses welding gloves.
If you go to a welding supply store, you will find a wide range of 
gloves from too small to very large.  You should be able to find 
a pair of gloves which fit pretty well.  My wife likes a glove which
is a little loose so that she can move her fingers.

There are gloves available custom made for falconry.  However, they
tend to be rather expensive.  Local falconers in your area (I assume
there is a state falconer's association) will probably know of local
people who make gloves.  Hawk Chawk (from the North American Falconer's
Association) usually has ads for gloves.

When you buy welders gloves, you get a pair.  Since you only need the
left hand (if you are right-handed), you can make the other glove work
also by turning it inside out.  This gets you two gloves for usually
15 to 30 dollars.  

The major difference between real falconry gloves and welders gloves
is that falconry gloves lie flat along the upper arm while welders
gloves flare on both the top and bottom of the arm.  This looks 
funny and makes it harder for the bird to stand.  I have been 
ripping the top seam and restitching the gloves to straighten out
the top seam of the glove.

If you work with larger birds, (large falcons or hawks), you will
want more protection than one glove.  In this case, we buy two
pairs of welding gloves (usually medium and extra large).  The 
medium pair is placed inside the large pair and we have a good
heavy duty glove for a footy red-tailed hawk.  When working with
eagles, this double glove needs at least one more layer of thick
(> 1/8") leather as a gauntlet over the entire glove.

Mike Nickerson
Hewlett-Packard
Disk Storage Systems
Boise, ID