[rec.birds] Breeding Parakeets

fleming@acsu.buffalo.edu (christine m fleming) (05/20/91)

Recap: I have a pair of parakeets (one male, one female) and a maybe
male, maybe female cockatiel. The male parakeet (Calysta) has been
courting(?) the cockatiel (Rutger), and ignoring the female parakeet
(Maranga). The cockatiel was weirded out, Maranga was getting sadder
and sadder, and Calysta was... just Calysta. 

Talking to my breeder, and some net people (THANKS Sue and John!) and
seeing how the situation has progressed, i was getting more and more
worried about Maranga. She had been getting weirder by the day.

Anyway, it was suggested by a few people that her sadness may be due
to her being in breeding condition, and not being set up in a proper
and condusive atmosphere for such things. 

Has anyone had experience with a lone or unhappily paired female during
breeding season? Maranga has traditional sickness indicators: she is
puffed up a lot more than normal, she sleeps a little more, and she
sings less. BUT, she is more than happy to sit on people or fly around
(in fact, she seems to enjoy this more than ever, and flys hither and
tither and all around), and she is eating and drinking normally. Her
droppings are also normal. Is she just... "broody"??

If so, i have been thinking that i will set her up with a nest box.
Does anyone have suggestions on how to go about this? They have a tall
(rather traditional) parakeet cage. It is pretty large (enough to
house one or two more birds comfortably...) and it has a door on the
ceiling and one on the lower left side of the cage. Where do i put the
box? (Their food is normally on the floor in two shallow bowls, and
their water is in the hook-on cups that usually come with a parakeet
cage... They have three perches in it now, but, used to have a tiered
set up with ladders and partitions. I'm not sure if all of this
matters much...) The problem is that we will be moving into a new house
as of June 1st, and i don't want to disturb her further. Should i put
the box in to let her get used to it? Should i take out and/or
re-arrange the perches? How? 

I have also been considering getting another pair of parakeets. If i
do, will the older pair be more likely to breed, or should i wait? It
has been suggested that i remove the cockatiel from their room: is
this possibly a/the reason the femamle parakeet is uncomfortable about
her environment? [Anyone have any suggestions for a good cockatiel
playground that will keep him amused and my housemates from killing me
for having a messy "killer bird" in the living room??...;)...] [Right,
"killer": he doesn't even understand the concept of "bite"...:)...]

Thanks for any help...
...jones
(fleming@sun.acsu.buffalo.edu)

ps: John, mail to you bounced again. "oakhill" doesn't work either..:( 

hubler@galaxy.lerc.nasa.gov (Dale Hubler) (05/21/91)

In article <77145@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> fleming@acsu.buffalo.edu (christine m fleming) writes:
>Recap: I have a pair of parakeets (one male, one female) and a maybe
>male, maybe female cockatiel. The male parakeet (Calysta) has been
>courting(?) the cockatiel (Rutger), and ignoring the female parakeet
>(Maranga). The cockatiel was weirded out, Maranga was getting sadder
>and sadder, and Calysta was... just Calysta. 
>
>Has anyone had experience with a lone or unhappily paired female during
>breeding season? Maranga has traditional sickness indicators: she is
>puffed up a lot more than normal, she sleeps a little more, and she
>sings less. BUT, she is more than happy to sit on people or fly around
>(in fact, she seems to enjoy this more than ever, and flys hither and
>tither and all around), and she is eating and drinking normally. Her
>droppings are also normal. Is she just... "broody"??
>
>If so, i have been thinking that i will set her up with a nest box.
>Does anyone have suggestions on how to go about this? They have a tall
>(rather traditional) parakeet cage. It is pretty large (enough to
>house one or two more birds comfortably...) and it has a door on the
>ceiling and one on the lower left side of the cage. Where do i put the
>box? (Their food is normally on the floor in two shallow bowls, and
>their water is in the hook-on cups that usually come with a parakeet
>cage... They have three perches in it now, but, used to have a tiered
>set up with ladders and partitions. I'm not sure if all of this
>matters much...) The problem is that we will be moving into a new house
>as of June 1st, and i don't want to disturb her further. Should i put
>the box in to let her get used to it? Should i take out and/or
>re-arrange the perches? How? 

I've never bred keets, but birds in general would prefer the highest
(safest) perch possible.  I would put the box up high.  Moving into
a new house will cause the birds a little stress but it may also
stimulate breeding.  Set up the box soon after moving in and remove
the tiel to another room.  It may not matter, but it can't hurt either.

>
>I have also been considering getting another pair of parakeets. If i
>do, will the older pair be more likely to breed, or should i wait? It
If you want to get into breeding then by all means get another pair.
You will double your chances of success.  The more the pairs, the  
better your chances.  But be careful, this breeding stuff is highly
addictive! :^)


You're welcome.  Thanks for the chance to test my new rn install.

Dale Hubler


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stewartw@cognos.UUCP (Stewart Winter) (05/22/91)

In article <1991May21.164351.5954@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> hubler@galaxy.lerc.nasa.gov (Dale Hubler) writes:
>>I have also been considering getting another pair of parakeets. If i
>>do, will the older pair be more likely to breed, or should i wait? It
>If you want to get into breeding then by all means get another pair.
>You will double your chances of success.  The more the pairs, the  
>better your chances.  But be careful, this breeding stuff is highly
>addictive! :^)

   In fact, it will do much more than double her chances.  Budgies
are colony breeders and seldom breed as a single pair.  She would
do best to place 3 or more pair into a flight with 4 or more nest
boxes placed high in the cage.  I'm not a budgies breeder either, but
I know a few.

  Stewart
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GA.MAY@forsythe.stanford.edu (mitchell) (05/24/91)

In article <9662@cognos.UUCP>,
stewartw@cognos.UUCP (Stewart Winter) writes:
>In article <1991May21.164351.5954@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> hubler@galaxy.lerc.nasa.gov (Dale Hubler) writes:
>>>I have also been considering getting another pair of parakeets. If i
>>>do, will the older pair be more likely to breed, or should i wait? It
>>If you want to get into breeding then by all means get another pair.
>>You will double your chances of success.  The more the pairs, the
>>better your chances.  But be careful, this breeding stuff is highly
>>addictive! :^)
>
>   In fact, it will do much more than double her chances.  Budgies
>are colony breeders and seldom breed as a single pair.  She would
>do best to place 3 or more pair into a flight with 4 or more nest
>boxes placed high in the cage.  I'm not a budgies breeder either, but
>I know a few.
>
>  Stewart
>--
>Stewart Winter               Cognos Incorporated   S-mail: P.O. Box 9707
>VOICE: (613) 738-1338 x3830  FAX: (613) 738-0002           3755 Riverside Drive
>UUCP: stewartw%cognos.uucp@ccs.carleton.ca                 Ottawa, Ontario
>The bird of the day is .... Timneh Parrot                  CANADA  K1G 3Z4

One additional bit of advice:  just be sure that there
is an excessive number of nest boxes.  We've found
this out the hard way in our own budgie horde - lots of
fights, but fortunately nothing permanently harmed, includinng
the two brooding pairs (with 4 and 1 (more to come) eggs).

this is our first year of budgie horde propogation - it was
their idea, not ours.

Mitchell
ga.may@forsythe.stanford.edu