afsidbb@cid.aes.doe.CA (Douglas Bender) (06/11/91)
A Robins nest containing three babies fell from our eavestrough
yesterday during a storm. My wife and I gave them a drink of water
then put them back in the nest and returned the nest. The mother has
not returned !!!
We fed the babies worms this morning and some sugared water. What
should we do? There are other Robins around but...........
Two of the babies have feathers but they can not fly....but not from
lack of trying. The third is just getting its feathers.
Please email as soon as possible!!!!
Thanks
Doug
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Douglas Bender Canadian Meteorological Centerghost@nrl-cmf.UUCP (Glenn Host) (06/12/91)
In article <1991Jun11.142418.6401@cid.aes.doe.CA> afsidbb@cid.aes.doe.CA (Douglas Bender) writes: > > A Robins nest containing three babies fell from our eavestrough > yesterday during a storm. My wife and I gave them a drink of water > then put them back in the nest and returned the nest. The mother has > not returned !!! > We fed the babies worms this morning and some sugared water. What > should we do? There are other Robins around but........... > > Two of the babies have feathers but they can not fly....but not from > lack of trying. The third is just getting its feathers. > > Please email as soon as possible!!!! > > Thanks > > Doug > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Douglas Bender Canadian Meteorological Center >Programmer/Analyst dbender@cmc.aes.doe.ca > (514) 421-4649 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > " You're never alone with a schizophrenic ! " - Ian Hunter > >Douglas Bender Canadian Meteorological Center Received: by ra.nrl.navy.mil (4.0/4.7) id AA18410; Wed, 12 Jun 91 08:40:30 EDT Date: Wed, 12 Jun 91 08:40:30 EDT From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON> Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Message-Id: <9106121240.AA18410@ra.nrl.navy.mil> To: ghost Status: R ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 421 Host cid.aes.doe.ca not found for mailer tcp. 550 afsidbb@cid.aes.doe.CA... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by ra.nrl.navy.mil (4.0/4.7) id AA18408; Wed, 12 Jun 91 08:40:30 EDT Date: Wed, 12 Jun 91 08:40:30 EDT From: Glenn Host <ghost> Message-Id: <9106121240.AA18408@ra.nrl.navy.mil> To: afsidbb@cid.aes.doe.CA Subject: Re: Help..Urgent.... Newsgroups: rec.birds In-Reply-To: <1991Jun11.142418.6401@cid.aes.doe.CA> References: <3114@wyse.wyse.com> Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Cc: In article <1991Jun11.142418.6401@cid.aes.doe.CA> you write: > > A Robins nest containing three babies fell from our eavestrough > yesterday during a storm. My wife and I gave them a drink of water > then put them back in the nest and returned the nest. The mother has > not returned !!! > We fed the babies worms this morning and some sugared water. What > should we do? There are other Robins around but........... > > Two of the babies have feathers but they can not fly....but not from > lack of trying. The third is just getting its feathers. > > Please email as soon as possible!!!! > > Thanks > > Doug > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Douglas Bender Canadian Meteorological Center >Programmer/Analyst dbender@cmc.aes.doe.ca > (514) 421-4649 >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Once you have touched the birds the parents will not come back. It is possible that the mother bird died and the babies wandered from the nest looking for food. I found that the same thing happen with some baby racoons; we found the racoons wandering around the barn - the mother was found nearby the next day - she had been hit by a car. Find a local bird shop with baby bird formula; it may not be designed for robins but it is probably the best thing you will be able to find. You may try the local humane society to see if they know of anyone who takes care of lost wild animals. As a last resort call the zoo and ask for information on raising wild baby birds. Good luck -- Glenn Host - Senior Systems Analyst (ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil) NRL Code 5800, 4555 Overlook Ave.; Washington, DC 20375 (202) 767-2046 12307 Tigers Eye Court ; Reston, VA 22091 (703) 620-1141 Don't pay attention to header - my news/mail handler is looking for attention -- Glenn Host - Senior Systems Analyst (ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil) NRL Code 5800, 4555 Overlook Ave.; Washington, DC 20375 (202) 767-2046 12307 Tigers Eye Court ; Reston, VA 22091 (703) 620-1141 Don't pay attention to header - my news/mail handler is looking for attention
e343gv@tamuts.tamu.edu (Gary Varner) (06/13/91)
In article <345@ra.nrl-cmf.UUCP> ghost@ra.UUCP (Glenn Host) writes: > >Once you have touched the birds the parents will not come back. > This is false. Sometimes parents will throw a chick out of the nest, and if you put it back they'll do it again. But when this happens it is because the chick is defective somehow, NOT because a human being touched it. Illustration: last spring a chickadee was blown from its nest during a storm before it was capable of flying. I fed it a mixture of hard boiled egg yolk, bred crumbs and milk (the former two scratched through a fine strainer and just enough of the latter added to make a thick goop that I squeezed through a syringe into his beak) for three or four days (almost every half hour from dawn to dusk!) while keeping him free lofted in ;my bathroom. When he could fly and perch well I put him in a pet carrier and walked around the area I'd found him in until a pair of chickadees reacted to his calls. When I let him out, he flew up and both chickadees swooped down to join him in a formation flight into a tree. I watched for twenty minutes to insure that they were feeding him, which they were. _______________________________________________________________ | | |____ Gary Varner | | ___| | Philosophy "It's too late to die young." | | \ * | Texas A&M -- Gregg Brown | | \/\ / e343gv@tamuts.tamu.edu | |_____\___/_____________________________________________________|
stewartw@cognos.UUCP (Stewart Winter) (06/13/91)
In article <345@ra.nrl-cmf.UUCP> ghost@ra.UUCP (Glenn Host) writes: >Once you have touched the birds the parents will not come back. Would I ever like to see the end of this old-wives tale! No, this simply IS NOT TRUE. Wild birds can be returned to the nest and if the parents wanted to feed them before, they will continue to feed them upon their return. Remember that the parents will frequently throw weak babies out of the nest. If that baby is returned, it will be thrown out again; this has nothing to do with being touched by humans. >Find a local bird shop with baby bird formula; it may not be designed >for robins but it is probably the best thing you will be able to find. Nutristart (available from many veternarians) is suitable for feeding wild birds. Remember that they should be fed every 15 minutes 24 hours per day - taking a bird from a nest implies a huge commitment. Stewart -- Stewart Winter Cognos Incorporated S-mail: P.O. Box 9707 VOICE: (613) 738-1338 x3830 FAX: (613) 738-0002 3755 Riverside Drive UUCP: stewartw%cognos.uucp@ccs.carleton.ca Ottawa, Ontario The bird of the day is .... Green-Cheeked Conure CANADA K1G 3Z4
kdb@intercon.com (Kurt Baumann) (06/14/91)
> Nutristart (available from many veternarians) is suitable for feeding > wild birds. Remember that they should be fed every 15 minutes 24 hours > per day - taking a bird from a nest implies a huge commitment. It has been my experience (over 300 cockatiels, and several wild birds) that this is just not entirely true. It depends on how old (how large the crop) the bird is. For example when you take cockatiels out of the nest at 10 days of age you need to feed them just about 6-8 times a day, depending on the individual bird, and what you are feeding them. at about 20 days of age you are probably feeding about 3-4 times a day. Then its down hill from there. A day old chick will require more water than food at the beginning, they don't have a lot of body weight and tend to dehydrate rather quickly. Day old chicks I feed usually get feed about once every 40 minutes or so. From 8am-midnight. Then I get up once during the evening and feed again. Parents will feed at night but realize that they can't just go out and find more food in the middle of the night. YES it is a HUGE commitment, but not nearing as time consuming as one would think. Very young chicks I have are feed watered down Lory food, which is a lot of vitamins and glucose. This keeps them going while they grow that first day or so, then I switch to something more solid (but still with a lot of liquid in it). You need to be careful not to dehydrate or underfeed. There is a fine balance with a young chick, and sometimes experience is the only thing that keeps chicks alive. Good luck. Rosemary Low has a book on the care and handfeeding of baby birds, there is a section dealing with wild birds in there as well. Insect eaters have a higher protein requirement than seed eaters. Kurt Baumann 703.709.9890 InterCon Systems Corp. Creators of fine TCP/IP products for the Macintosh