[rec.ham-radio] A question about a PLL synth loop filter

mjj@stda.jhuapl.edu (Marshall Jose) (11/01/90)

I have been trying to understand a passive loop filter I have twice seen used
in ham radio construction articles.  It looks like this:


     O---VVVVV----+-------+------O
           R1     |       |
                  |       >
                  |       >  R2
                  |       >
                 ---      |
                 --- C1   |
                  |       |
                  |      ---
                  |      --- C2
                  |       |
     O------------+-------+------O

I have been having a great deal of trouble trying to factor out at least
one zero in the denominator of H(s) = F(s)G(s)/[1 + F(s)G(s)], where
F(s) = K/s and G(s) = response of above filter.  I get something like

                 C(as + 1)
     H(s) = ---------------------
               3     2
              s  + ps  + qs + r

where p, q, & r are expressions involving R1, R2, C1, and C2.  It looks
like it ought to be a good performer as long as I could move the poles
to the right place.  When I try to cheat and have an expression manipulator
(such as Mathematica) find the roots, I (deservedly) get an enormous,
intuitively opaque result.

Has anybody out there dealt with this at the design level, or at least
seen a reference to it?  The Egan, Manassewitz, and Gardner books seem
not to address it, but I haven't checked the journals yet.

Thanks in advance,
Marshall Jose  WA3VPZ
mjj%stda@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu  ||  ...mimsy!aplcen!aplvax!mjj

kjh@aludra.usc.edu (Kenneth J. Hendrickson) (11/02/90)

In article <1990Oct31.210242.20619@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> @aplvax.jhuapl.edu:mjj@stda.jhuapl.edu (Marshall Jose) writes:
%I have been trying to understand a passive loop filter I have twice seen used
%in ham radio construction articles.  It looks like this:
%
%
%     O---VVVVV----+-------+------O
%           R1     |       |
%                  |       >
%                  |       >  R2
%                  |       >
%                 ---      |
%                 --- C1   |
%                  |       |
%                  |      ---
%                  |      --- C2
%                  |       |
%     O------------+-------+------O
%
%
%                 C(as + 1)
%     H(s) = ---------------------
%               3     2
%              s  + ps  + qs + r
%

Your first clue, is that since you have two energy storage devices, that
you should have two poles.  When I solve this, I get:

                     c1r1 * s + 1
H(s) = ---------------------------------------------
       c1c2r1r2 * s^2 + (c2r2 + c1r1 + c2r1) * s + 1

Ken Hendrickson N8DGN/6      kjh@usc.edu      ...!uunet!usc!pollux!kjh