[rec.video] ***RESULTS OF REC.VIDEO.SOFTWARE VOTE***

kanefsky@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU (Steve Kanefsky) (01/17/90)

Well, the suspense is over, and the vote is almost too close to call.
I received 129 yes votes before the deadline, and 33 no votes, for 
a difference of 96 votes in favor of creating rec.video.software.
This works out to 79.6% yes, 20.4% no, although strictly speaking
this is of no concern.  Whether a 96 vote yes majority consists of
50.000001% of the vote or 100% of the vote is not a factor in the
decision of newsgroup creation by the rules as they stand today.

However, I do believe the vote is close enough that the 5-day waiting
period becomes critical, and so I urge everyone who voted (or tried to
vote) to check over the acknowlegements below and see if your vote is
where it belongs.  A mistake or two on my part could easily sway the
outcome in one direction or the other.  I'm not sure if I am allowed
to count votes which were sent but didn't reach me, but if you voted
in time (on or before Jan. 11) and your name doesn't appear, please
inform me of this and in the meantime I will find out if I can count
these.  On the other hand, if I misplaced your vote (doubtful, since
I searched for "yes" in the no-vote file and "no" in the yes-vote file)
I can surely correct that.  

In any case, unless several more yes than no votes were lost and I am 
allowed to count them, it appears that rec.video.software has failed
by almost the narrowest possible margin.  Unfortunately, I believe 
my handling of the vote may be the reason there weren't more votes,
because I held off after the first call for votes for quite a while,
not realizing that each call for votes would bring in a large number
of votes from people who hadn't read the previous calls.  I tried
to compensate by placing the last calls too close together, which was
not as effective. 

Anyway, I have no doubt that there is sufficient interest in the group,
as a substantial number of no votes were very specific in that it was
the name of the group they were voting against, not the charter.  That
being the case, and assuming that there isn't a change in the outcome
of the vote or a leniency on the part of the net, I will hold an informal
vote on a new name for the group and once again call for votes on the
creation of a newsgroup with the same charter as rec.video.software and
a new name.  I'm sure many people, even some who voted yes, will be
happy to hear that.  As I've mentioned in a few of my private e-mail
messages, I don't mind using a different name for the newsgroup, but
I still think that "software" fits better than any other word, and
there's no getting around the need for a term which describes what
"software" does in the context of video.  Other words may largely
correspond to what the charter of the newsgroup describes, but they
are not synonymous with "software"

So, as of now, we begin an official 5-day waiting period to see
what the *official* outcome of the vote will be, although the
*unofficial* outcome at this time indicates that rec.video.software
should not be created at this time, although the yes votes outnumbered
the no votes 4 to 1 for a total of 96 more yes votes than no votes.

Thanks to everyone for their participation in the discussion and voting
so far, but let me remind you that it isn't over yet.  Please check
the following acknowlegements and, should it come to another vote,
please participate in that as well.


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                          ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS 



YES VOTES:

From: "1164 Esherick, Peter" <esheric@sandia.gov>
From: "Dennis Nichols, MACC" <NICHOLS@macc.wisc.edu>
From: "Mark D. Salzman" <marks%tekigm2.men.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
From: "Steve Kanefsky" <kanefsky>
From: Al Seaman <alse%tekig6.pen.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
From: Andy Malis <malis@BBN.COM>
From: Arun Welch <welch@cis.ohio-state.edu>
From: Bevis King <brwk@doc.ic.ac.uk>
From: Bob Niland <rjn@hpfcso.hp.com>
From: Carl Noseworthy <rutgers!garfield.cs.mun.ca!carl>
From: Chad Fogg <cfogg@milton.u.washington.edu>
From: Colin Hunter <CHUNTER@UMAB.BITNET>
From: Dan Grim <grim@udel.edu>
From: Daniel.F.McKinnon.III@mac.dartmouth.edu
From: Dave "bd" Hsu <hsu@twiddle.eng.umd.edu>
From: Ed Hall <edhall@rand.org>
From: George_Lindholm@mtsg.ubc.ca
From: Jacob Hugart <jhugart@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu>
From: Jamie Zawinski <jwz@teak.berkeley.edu>
From: Jay Johannes <jayj@hpislx.hp.com>
From: Jeff Williamson <magik@norby.acns.nwu.edu>
From: Jeffrey James Bryan Carpenter <jjc@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
From: Jo Ellen McCoy <jo@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>
From: John Howells <howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov>
From: Kathryn Daugherty <kdaugher@hqpyr1.oracle.com>
From: Kevin M. Jackson <kevinj@boulder.Colorado.EDU>
From: Marc Levitt <levitt@lynx.ccsr.uiuc.edu>
From: Markko Jantunen <f34139t@taltta.hut.fi>
From: Michael D. Ketchen <mketch@pawl.rpi.edu>
From: Mills@granite.cr.bull.com
From: Mitchell Marks <mitchell@gargoyle.uchicago.edu>
From: Oreo Cat <jim%cavevax@hub.ucsb.edu>
From: Paul Mayer  N7FJF <pgmayer@arrakis.nevada.edu>
From: Pestilence <bar5834@cuphub.cup.edu>
From: Peter Franks <pete@indep1.mcs.com>
From: Philip Moore <pmoore%jove.cs.pdx.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
From: Richard Bingham <rwb%castle.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK>
From: Richard Shetron <multics@ACM.RPI.EDU>
From: Robert Oyung <rob@hp-ses.sde.hp.com>
From: Robertj Jaquiss (503)627-4444 DS 50-454 <robertj%tekgen.bv.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
From: Roger Haaheim <rog@dtc.hp.com>
From: Stanier A <alan%essex.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK>
From: Stephen Tell <tell@cs.unc.edu>
From: Steve Baumgarten <baumgart@esquire.dpw.com>
From: Steve Crooks <rutgers!uunet.uu.net!crooks!crooks>
From: Ulf Dahlen <uda@IDA.LiU.SE>
From: W C Newell Jr <WCN@MAX.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU>
From: atr@Sun.COM (Alan Ruberg - Sun BOS Software)
From: azd@geac.com (Andrew Dudas)
From: bam%rudedog@sgi.com (Brian McClendon)
From: bellutta@irst.it (Paolo Bellutta)
From: bob@omni.com (Bob Weissman)
From: bodine@gate.spg.uiuc.edu (bodine //dn4504/user.dn4504)
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (09-Dec-1989 0154)
From: brooksj@umd5.umd.edu (Joanne Brooks)
From: bryce@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bryce Nesbitt)
From: carroll@nprdc.navy.mil (Larry Carroll)
From: cbnewsc!kimes@att.att.com
From: cdin-1!fred@uunet.UU.NET (Fred Rump)
From: ckd%bucsf.BU.EDU@bu-it.bu.edu (Christopher Davis)
From: corona!rae@alias (Reid Ellis)
From: ctuel@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Cliff Tuel)
From: curt@dtix.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
From: dcj@decvax.dec.com (David C. Jedlinsky)
From: ddelany@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Daniel Alan Delany)
From: donnell@ux.acs.umn.edu
From: doug@letni.lawnet.com (Doug Davis)
From: eliz@world.std.com (Elizabeth Lear)
From: everson@spca.bbn.com
From: feb@cblpe.att.com (Franco E Barber)
From: fredb@saintjoe.EDU (Fred Berger)
From: gil@banyan.banyan.com  (Gil Pilz@Eng@Banyan)
From: gvr@cs.brown.edu
From: hikaru@infodn.rmi.de (Walter Doerr)
From: howard@hasse.ericsson.se (Howard Gayle)
From: icsu6000@caesar.cs.montana.edu (Mathisen)
From: jjung%nunki.usc.edu@usc.edu (John Jung)
From: jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
From: john@bovine.ati.com (John Higdon)
From: jwl@mhuxu.att.com (James W Lee, Iii)
From: kim@uts.amdahl.com (Kim E. DeVaughn)
From: kurt@happy.csg.uiuc.edu (Kurt)
From: lennartw@basf.nmpcad.se (Lennart Wahlgren)
From: michael@agricola.mit.edu (Michael J. Wargo)
From: miket@corona (Mike Tripicco)
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.com (Jeff Meyer)
From: mtndew!friedl@uunet.uu.net
From: munnari!pyrmania.oz.au!major@uunet.UU.NET (MAJOR)
From: nvuxr!ccw@bellcore.bellcore.com
From: occam!alzabo!kebera@scs.carleton.ca (Krishna E. Bera)
From: oplinger@jupiter.crd.ge.com
From: pixar!brighton@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Bill Carson)
From: plains!iad-nxe.global-mis.dhl.com!ewiles (Edwin Wiles)
From: plains!wyse.com!pgraham (PC-NFS Philip Graham x1124 #)
From: portuesi%tweezers.esd@sgi.com (Michael Portuesi)
From: quodling@blumon.enet.dec.com (Peter Quodling - 381 2695 - ZKO1-3/J35  09-Jan-1990 1109)
From: randy@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: resgroup@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Resgroup)
From: rseiter@pdx.mentor.com (Richard Seiter)
From: rshapiro@WILMA.BBN.COM
From: rutgers!anet.ann-arbor.mi.us!alb (Alan L. Brushaber)
From: rutgers!attctc.dallas.tx.us!joeisham (Joe Isham)
From: rutgers!cadnetix.com!mrl (Michael Levy)
From: rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!puzzle!news (newshound)
From: rutgers!loki.wv.tek.com!jeffg (Jeff C. Glover)
From: rutgers!nike.cair.du.edu!onecom!kreme (Mail login)
From: rutgers!pyramid.com!leadsv!jete (J.J. Hood)
From: rutgers!sun.com!pixar!good (Craig Craig, Bo-Baig, Banana-Fana Fo-Faig, Me-My-Mo-Maig, Craig.)
From: rutgers!uunet.uu.net!vmp!dm (Deneen Matthews)
From: rutgers!uunet.uu.net!vmp!don (Don Gertler)
From: rutgers!uunet.uu.net!vmp!ed (Ed Karlin)
From: rutgers!uunet.uu.net!vmp!oc (Orlan Cannon)
From: rutgers!uunet.uu.net!vmp!rg (Russell Gibson)
From: rutgers!uunet.uu.net!vmp!rh (Rebeca Hernandez)
From: samho@elk.cs.washington.edu (Sam Ho)
From: schloss@marlin.nosc.mil (Tom Schlosser)
From: spexet@ux.acs.umn.edu
From: tam%rigel.Berkeley.EDU@berkeley.edu (Tam M. Nguyen)
From: tim@csvax.caltech.edu (Timothy L. Kay)
From: traber@linus.mitre.org (Carl William Traber)
From: unccab@med.unc.edu (Charles Balan)
From: uwm!ames!claris!netcom!marcos (Marcos H. Woehrmann)
From: vidiot!brown%astroatc.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
From: vmp!mh@uunet.UU.NET (Madelon Heiman)
From: walsh@ux.acs.umn.edu
From: warren@schizo.samsung.com (Warren Lavallee)
From: weitek!attila.weitek.COM!lupin (Ed Lupin)
From: woolstar@csvax.caltech.edu (John D Woolverton)
From: xanadu!STella@uunet.uu.net



NO VOTES:

From: Bart Massey <bart%videovax.tv.tek.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
From: James A Jegers <jimj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu>
From: Jim Roche <roche@cs.rochester.edu>
From: Kevin Long <klong@pauling.bcm.tmc.edu>
From: Mark Brader <msb@sq.sq.com>
From: Richard H. Miller <rick@pavlov.bcm.tmc.edu>
From: Rick Deckard <FTAYLOR@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
From: Steve Scher <steves@cica.indiana.edu>
From: Vernon Lee <scorpion@rice.edu>
From: Wes Wheeler <wheeler@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu>
From: bartkus@ncrats.atlanta.ncr.com
From: blob@apple.com (Brian Bechtel)
From: bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton)
From: chip@ateng.ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg)
From: csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst)
From: d87-hho@nada.kth.se (Henrik Holmstr|m)
From: dbilar@antares.Tymnet.COM (Dave Bilar)
From: dwillis@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Alden Willis)
From: greg@SJ.ATE.SLB.COM (Greg Wageman)
From: linimon@attctc.dallas.tx.us (Mark Linimon)
From: marc@clik.qc.ca (Marc Boucher)
From: mtgzy!ecl@att.att.com
From: ntpal!amy@egsner.cirr.com
From: paul@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
From: plains!uunet.UU.NET!fcs%hardy (Fred Sabernick)
From: rob@genrad.com (Robert S. Wood)
From: rutgers!polyslo.calpoly.edu!rducky!jrp (JIM PICKERING)
From: rutgers!uunet.uu.net!unix386!dougm (The Manic Tinker)
From: sewilco@datapg.MN.ORG (Scot E Wilcoxon)
From: smm12%computer-lab.cambridge.ac.uk@NSFnet-Relay.AC.UK
From: strong@tc.fluke.com (Norm Strong)
From: uwm!ames!amdcad!cdr (Carl Rigney)
From: uwm!mailrus!ames!beaver.cs.washington.edu!6sceng!blm (Brian Matthews)

-- 
Steve Kanefsky             
kanefsky@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu