[tor.news] Distribution weirdness

mark@sickkids.UUCP (Mark Bartelt) (04/22/89)

A friend forwarded me an article from sci.research that was posted by
Roy Smith (roy@phri), which had the following header line:

   Distribution: usa

The article was sent to, and accepted by, jarvis.csri.toronto.edu, but
doesn't seem to have made it here.  I'm assuming that it probably won't.
Since some of our news gets here from jarvis via one intermediate hop at
dptcdc, I'm assuming that whatever it is that filters out articles which
aren't meant for tor|ont|can|na|world distribution is working properly,
at least somewhere.

The final part of the path was ...

   tut.cis.ohio-state.edu => mailrus => jarvis.csri.toronto.edu

My question is, why did it make it to jarvis at all?  Was mailrus screwing
up by sending it to Canada despite the "Distribution:" line, or was jarvis
screwing up by accepting it?  Or both?

Not that I'm complaining, mind you; I was glad to have seen the article.
I'm just curious ...

Ah, I know:  The anti- free trade zealots were right.  We actually have
become indistinguishable from the US.  ;-)

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rayan@ai.toronto.edu (Rayan Zachariassen) (04/22/89)

In article <259@sickkids.UUCP> mark@sickkids.UUCP (Mark Bartelt) writes:
# My question is, why did it make it to jarvis at all?  Was mailrus screwing
# up by sending it to Canada despite the "Distribution:" line, or was jarvis
# screwing up by accepting it?  Or both?

Neither.  Its on purpose.

# Ah, I know:  The anti- free trade zealots were right.  We actually have
# become indistinguishable from the US.  ;-)

Right, and they from us... considering sites in NY and MI get tor and ont
stuff, and reports of can postings showing up at UCB, I thought it would
only be fair that we got to see usa stuff.  Lots of interesting usa postings.

cks@ziebmef.uucp (Chris Siebenmann) (04/23/89)

 I think mailrus just hasn't taken 'usa' out of their sys line for
jarvis (the mailrus <-> jarvis link is via NNTP over the UofT's
Internet connection). Not that I mind; quite a few useful articles
I've seen have had usa distributions.

 Of course, that's not the funniest distribution I've seen. Would you
believe that not only is the UofT in western New York State, but
Waterloo is too?

-- 
	"But he said leave me alone I'm a family man
	 and my bark is much worse than my bite"
Chris Siebenmann		uunet!{utgpu!moore,attcan!telly}!ziebmef!cks
cks@ziebmef.UUCP	     or	.....!utgpu!{,ontmoh!,ncrcan!brambo!}cks

cks@ziebmef.uucp (Chris Siebenmann) (04/23/89)

In article <89Apr21.235933edt.39759@neat.ai.toronto.edu> rayan@ai.toronto.edu (Rayan Zachariassen) writes:
| Right, and they from us... considering sites in NY and MI get tor and ont
| stuff, and reports of can postings showing up at UCB, I thought it would
| only be fair that we got to see usa stuff.  Lots of interesting usa postings.

 Are usa-distribution being propagated beyond the UofT? Until we
persuade posters that there ARE people interested in their articles up
here in the Great North, it might be usefull to propagate them (I'd
certainly like to get them!).

-- 
	"But he said leave me alone I'm a family man
	 and my bark is much worse than my bite"
Chris Siebenmann		uunet!{utgpu!moore,attcan!telly}!ziebmef!cks
cks@ziebmef.UUCP	     or	.....!utgpu!{,ontmoh!,ncrcan!brambo!}cks

eastick@me.utoronto.ca (Doug Eastick) (04/23/89)

In article <259@sickkids.UUCP> mark@sickkids.UUCP (Mark Bartelt) writes:
>A friend forwarded me an article from sci.research that was posted by
>Roy Smith (roy@phri), which had the following header line:
>
>   Distribution: usa
>
[Path was]
>   tut.cis.ohio-state.edu => mailrus => jarvis.csri.toronto.edu

>My question is, why did it make it to jarvis at all?  Was mailrus screwing
>up by sending it to Canada despite the "Distribution:" line, or was jarvis
>screwing up by accepting it?  Or both?

I don't know *why* it's being done, but mailrus is sending and jarvis is
accepting the "usa" distribution. When jarvis started getting it's
feed from mailrus, I noticed an increase in the number of articles/day
in most newgroups (mostly non-tecc groups: alt, soc, rec). I like this.
 
>Not that I'm complaining, mind you; I was glad to have seen the article.
>I'm just curious ...

IMHO, I think some/most of the posting software in the US defaults to
a "usa" distribution. Or it could be that the Americans think that
they are the only people in the world worthy of using computers :-).

I say keep it the way it is, or educate those Americans to us a
"world" or "na" distribution line.
-- 
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		eastick@me.utoronto.ca