evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) (12/18/89)
The other day, a checkgroups message flew by here that included many
groups beyond the standard ones. Local groups from Atlanta, St. Louis,
San Francisco, New England, etc.
One thing I noticed was that no other local group exchanges uucp stats
via postings. It made me ask myself if these things were useful during
normal operation here, when they're not required elsewhere?
I create stats for this site and save them here, so I can make them
available if need arises. But is there a need to forward my 2K to
everyone's spool directory, especially as other traffic increases?
(Outside of the trivial pursuit of glancing at who's sending how much
to whom.)
We can easily know who's talking to whom through the maps. I suggest
that perhaps it is time to have a look at whether we really have to post
statistics daily.
(NOTE: I am fully aware of how to stop reading the stats or stop them
from going into or out of this site. That's not the point. I'm
addressing the bigger issue of whether this stuff even needs to be
propogated.)
I'm going to stop posting telly's, though anyone who wants them can have
them by mail. I'm sure they won't be missed much.
--
Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!attcan!telly!evan / (416)452-0504
If women designed condoms there is no doubt they would be not ribbed, but paddedlamy@ai.utoronto.ca (Jean-Francois Lamy) (12/18/89)
evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: >One thing I noticed was that no other local group exchanges uucp stats >via postings. "mn.traffic" is a Minnesota group that does just that. Clyde.concordia.ca leaked it to us (coming from uunet, the biggest leak in the world :-) for about a day, along with all the Australian, Bay Area, New Joisey and all other regional groups. I did notice because "mn.traffic" had more traffic than all the other combined. Maybe those stats groups get created just to generate some traffic from which stats can be gathered? Jean-Francois Lamy lamy@ai.utoronto.ca, uunet!ai.utoronto.ca!lamy AI Group, Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4
wcm@geac.com (W Christopher Martin) (12/18/89)
In article <258C150E.33F@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: >One thing I noticed was that no other local group exchanges uucp stats >via postings. It made me ask myself if these things were useful during >normal operation here, when they're not required elsewhere? They aren't required here either, but I find them useful. I'm surprised that other regions aren't doing the same thing. >... But is there a need to forward my 2K to >everyone's spool directory, especially as other traffic increases? >(Outside of the trivial pursuit of glancing at who's sending how much >to whom.) Very rarely do I need the detailed information. What I usually glance at is the summary of how many articles passed through various major sites. When I compare these numbers to those for my own site, I can detect whether fluctuations are localized or not. There are lots of sites posting stats that I put in my kill file and then ignore. I don't mind carrying them in case someone out there is interested. On the other hand, there are some sites that I wish would post useful stats. Some don't post at all, and others post numbers that I don't find useful (utzoo for example). >I'm going to stop posting telly's, though anyone who wants them can have >them by mail. I'm sure they won't be missed much. They will be missed, but since there are enough other sites posting stats for me to use as reference points, I won't bother asking to be put on your mailing list. I would just have to arrange to inject the mail back into tor.news.stats (with a local distribution) so that I could read your stats in context with everyone else's. wcm -- W. Christopher Martin wcm@geac.com or {uunet!jtsv16,utgpu,yunexus}!geac!wcm
bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) (12/18/89)
In article <258C150E.33F@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: |[...] |We can easily know who's talking to whom through the maps. I suggest |that perhaps it is time to have a look at whether we really have to post |statistics daily. If it ain't broke don't fix it... |I'm going to stop posting telly's, though anyone who wants them can have |them by mail. I'm sure they won't be missed much. I wonder why this is such a big problem when in comparison you might see in "comp.mail.maps" some 5 to 10 "u.gbr.?" maps posted per month all over the world, to give a trivial example. It seems like the stats are like a kind of local weather report which are of use on a day to day basis esp. when there are news droughts or floods... Cheers, -- ^^ Bruce Becker Toronto, Ont. w \**/ Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu `/v/-e BitNet: BECKER@HUMBER.BITNET _/ >_ "The Rounder I Go, the Faster I Get" - Tenderfeed for QuodUseNet
jmm@eci386.uucp (John Macdonald) (12/19/89)
In article <258C150E.33F@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes: > > [ ... ] It made me ask myself if these things were useful during >normal operation here, when they're not required elsewhere? > I normally ignore stats completely - by unsubscribing or by a large kill file depending upon the machine in question. However, I appreciate having them there. It means that whenever there is a lull in incoming news, I can look back up the feed chain to see whether it is a city-wide drought or if a specific machine is having problems. It can mean the difference between a system administrator noticing a problem eventually, or having a neighbour sound the alarm immediately. I certainly appreciate getting such alerts from my neighbours (I know, I know, its time I got ecijmm running again...). -- 80386 - hardware demonstrating the fractal nature of warts. | John Macdonald EMS/LIM - software demonstrating the fractal nature of warts. | jmm@eci386