Sun-Spots-Request@Rice.edu (William LeFebvre) (10/21/88)
SUN-SPOTS DIGEST Wednesday, 19 October 1988 Volume 6 : Issue 266 Today's Topics: Re: S-PLUS (2) Re: Source for 'S' Re: kermit for sun 4 (2) Re: .cshrc vs .login Re: interactive spelling checker for SUN Re: Voice Recognition Hardware/Software Re: MX sendmail for Sun OS 3.5 fputs slightly busted under 4.0 Memory for an at-home Sun 3/50 Configuration File for sendmail.mx? 451 on Sun4? I wanted a 753! UUCP, bug or feature? SunLink MCP RS-449 ports (0,1) configured as RS-232? 60M tape compatibility? Motorola? Send contributions to: sun-spots@rice.edu Send subscription add/delete requests to: sun-spots-request@rice.edu Bitnet readers can subscribe directly with the CMS command: TELL LISTSERV AT RICE SUBSCRIBE SUNSPOTS My Full Name Recent backissues are available via anonymous FTP from "titan.rice.edu". For volume X, issue Y, "get sun-spots/vXnY". They are also accessible through the archive server: mail the request "send sun-spots vXnY" to "archive-server@rice.edu" or mail the word "help" to the same address for more information. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 11:48:51 CDT From: carlg@rosevax.rosemount.com (Carl Gansen) Subject: Re: S-PLUS (1) Reference: v6n255 Our contact at SSI for S+ is David Hartwell (206)322-8707 carlg@rosevax.Rosemount.Com uunet!rosevax!carlg ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 88 10:47:01 PDT From: ames!eos!khanh@ucbvax.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: S-PLUS (2) > would anyone know who I can contact regarding purchase of the 'S' > statistical package for Suns?... Their phone number from the S-PLUS manual: (206) 322-3841 Address is: P.O. Box 85625, Seattle, WA 98145-1625 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Oct 88 10:29:49 PDT From: battan@tc.fluke.com (Jim Battan) Subject: Re: Source for 'S' Reference: v6n255 S is still available from Bell Labs. Dial 1-800-828-UNIX to talk to AT&T about it. We just got a "New S" source tape, which includes the old S sources, but only until December 1, 1988, if I read AT&T's letter right. New S is somewhat "object oriented", cleaner, and faster. There are no NeWS or X device drivers, but it should work fine under SunView 1, and "...device functions for these window systems will be available in the future". There's a new book "The New S Language," much improved over the old. However, one of the files (src/qpe/comp_util.c) won't compile under SunOS 4.0. Sun has said they're working on the problem, which I think is too many local labels for the assembler. So I'm waiting for 4.0.1 to try it out. One nit: I wish AT&T would have more cleanly separated the old S and New S sources. They just merged them together. Supposedly it is possible to install New S without old S. Jim Battan (+1 206 356 6469) battan@tc.fluke.COM || {sun,uw-beaver,decvax!microsoft}!fluke!battan ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 88 23:20:07 GMT From: sdsu!ecphssrw%trantor@ucsd.edu (Stephen Walton) Subject: Re: kermit for sun 4 (1) In <Sun-Spots Digest, v6n252>, wiley%unm-la writes: >I recently brought up Kermit 4E (069) on a Sun 4/110 running SunOS4 r4.0. The current version of C Kermit is 4E(070). It can be FTP'd from CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU (mget KER:CK*.* if you want the whole thing). You can also get it on BITNET via the Kermit mail/file server (send HELP to KERMSRV@CUVMA as either the text of a mail message or as an interactive message) and via anonymous UUCP from Ohio State. Stephen Walton, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Univ. Northridge RCKG01M@CALSTATE.BITNET ecphssrw@afws.csun.edu swalton@solar.stanford.edu ...!csun!afws.csun.edu!bcphssrw [[ But read the next message first...... --wnl ]] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Oct 88 16:21:07 EDT From: Fuat C. Baran <fuat@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: kermit for sun 4 (2) CU20B was our last remaining DEC20, and was retired last month. Kermit files are now available via anonymous ftp from cunixc.cc.columbia.edu (128.59.40.130) in ~ftp/kermit. Please get ~ftp/kermit/read.me first. For more info, please send mail to kermit@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu or info-kermit-request@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu (for info-kermit digest info) or Kermit Distribution Center Columbia University Center for Computing Activities 701 Watson Labs 612 W115th St. New York, NY 10025 --Fuat * Do not send mail to me. I am not in the Kermit Group * ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 88 01:26:32 EDT From: jesse@mssun7.msi.cornell.edu (Jesse Lee) Subject: Re: .cshrc vs .login Is it possible to make the shell execute the commands in .login first rather than .cshrc first? I wrote a program which prompts for secondary password after logging in. It should be the first program that to be run; otherwise whoever can break in will have sufficient time to press ^C to stop the shell executing the commands in .cshrc or .login. But if I put the program in .cshrc, then whenver I start a new shell, it will always prompt for password which of course is quite annoying. To solve this problem, either the shell executes the commands in .login first or to modify the program so that it can tell whether the shell that invokes itself is the login shell or not. But I do not know how to do the latter one. Can somebody tell me how? Jesse Lee [[ Changing the order in which the "rc" files were read in would likely break other things. There are two potential solutions: (1) use a different login shell, making sure that it changes the "SHELL" environment variable to something real; (2) have the program (or the .cshrc) determine if the shell is the login shell. Here are some ideas. The argv[0] of a login shell always starts with a '-' (courtesy of /bin/login). The program could go mucking around in kmem to find the ancestral chain. The program's parent is the shell that invoked it. If the shell's parent is pid 1, then it is a login shell. If the shell's parent is an "rlogin" process, then it is a login shell. Otherwise, it very likely is not. --wnl ]] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 88 01:18:16 PDT From: shipley%WEB.Berkeley.EDU@lilac.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: interactive spelling checker for SUN I Have been using a spell checker called xspell [no it does not use "The X Window system]. If anyone will like a copy I can provide see if I can place it somewhere for anon. ftp. Peter Shipley shipley@berkeley.edu uunet!lurnix!shipley decwrl!pyramid!hippo!{root shipley peter} pacbell!hippo!{root shipley peter} ...!etc!etc!etc!... ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 88 22:17:23 GMT From: dcdwest!smead@ucsd.edu (Frank Smead) Subject: Re: Voice Recognition Hardware/Software > Andrew S. Gerber Writes: > Can anyone give me a pointer to companies that > manuafacture/distribute voice recognition software and hardware for > the SUN. ITT offer a high performance large vocabulary Speech recognition system for the SUN, the VRS-1280/VME. The system includes a single VME board continuous speech recognizer with software for applications development and template generation. The system has been on the market for over a year and is available for immediate delivery. The specifications for the board include: Syntax driven, speaker dependent, continuous speech recognition. Vocabulary Capacity: 500 Unique Words, 2,000 total words. Throughput Capacity: 500 Seconds of Speech (~800 Words) Accuracy: Greater than 98% (Standard ITT Acceptance Test) Simultaneous Speech Recognition, CVSD Recording and Synthesis Software: Sun Device Driver Application Development Library Syntax Generator Template Training module CVSD Synthesis Editor Diagnostics Module Demonstration Module The VRS-1280/PC system is available for the PC environment. The VRS-1280/Tactical system is available for military environment. For further information contact: Frank Smead ITT 492 River Road Nutley, New Jersey 07110 (201) 284-3000 ------------------------------ Date: 16 Oct 88 19:37:25 PDT (Sunday) From: Lovstrand.EuroPARC@xerox.com Subject: Re: MX sendmail for Sun OS 3.5 Cc: Sun-Nets@brillig.umd.edu, Sun-Spots@rice.edu Standard sendmail 5.59 (source) is available via anonymous ftp from ucbarpa.berkeley.edu in ~ftp/4.3/sendmail.tar.Z, but perhaps I may suggest trying the IDA* Sendmail Enhancement Kit on top of that, which you can get from arisia.xerox.com in ~ftp/pub1/ida.tar.Z. Available from the same place is also a precompiled sendmail for Sun-3/SunOS 3.5 in ida-sendmail-sun3.Z. The IDA Sendmail Enhancement Kit consists of a set of patches to the Berkeley sendmail 5.59 source together with various support programs and IDA's pretty highly parameterized sendmail.cf setup. Installation instructions and documentation is included. Some of the Kit's features are listed below, see the Kit's README file for more info. o Nameserver $[..$] Default Argument o Direct Access to Dbm(3) Files and Yellow Pages o Batched SMTP Support o Separate Envelope/Header Rewriting Rulesets o Separate Local UUCP Host Name o Return Path for UUCP Mailers o UUCP Header Address Relativization o Support for Multi-Token Matches o Support for Embedded Subruleset Calls o Better To: and Cc: Headers of Returned Messages o Delayed Macro Evaluation o Address Rewriting Loop Detection o A "Fool-Proof" Frozen File Validity Check o Improved Error Reporting & Test Mode Output The configuration file together with the supplied data files and utility programs implement such nice features as pathalias based systems routing within sendmail, fully !-/@-translating rulesets, generic local user addresses, and more. It's available for free, BUT with a minimal support. Let me know about problems, but please don't rely on me fixing them -- I only have very little time to spend on sendmail these days. The current version of the Kit is 1.2.5 [Sept 15, 1988]. It has been sent to comp.sources.unix and ought to eventually become available via their archives as well. --Lennart <Lovstrand.EuroPARC@Xerox.COM> Rank Xerox EuroPARC, 61 Regent Street, Cambridge CB2 1AB, England *) IDA is an abbreviation of "Institutionen for Datavetenskap", which is Swedish for The Department of Computer and Information Science. Under no circumstance should it be confused with the IDA that stands for the Institute for Defense Analysis, with which the author has no relationship to nor any wish to become associated with. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 88 13:02:23 EDT From: jgreely@oz.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely) Subject: fputs slightly busted under 4.0 Ran into a small problem with fputs. The following program produces correct output under 3.5, but not under 4.0 (on a Sun 4): ---------- cut here ---------- #include <stdio.h> main() { char *foo = "\nFOO\n"; char *bar = "\nBAR\n"; fputs(foo,stdout); printf("%s",foo); fputs(bar,stdout); printf("%s",bar); fputs("---\n"); } ---------- cut here ---------- Under 3.5, you get: FOO FOO BAR BAR --- Under 4.0 (on a Sun 4), you get: FOO BAR BAR --- Placing any other function which prints to stdout ahead of the first fputs magically corrects its behavior, as does switching the values of foo and bar. J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!cis.ohio-state.edu!jgreely) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Oct 88 10:00:21 EDT From: Skip Montanaro <steinmetz!montnaro@uunet.uu.net> Subject: Memory for an at-home Sun 3/50 Jan Peterson writes in Suns-At-Home V1n27: If I were you, I would *NOT* get a 3/50. The 50 is limited to 4 meg of RAM, and this is simply not enough if you want to run SunOS 4.0. I spoke with a company in Cambridge, MA recently (Cambridge Automation perhaps?) recently, that claims to have upgrade memory for Sun-3/50s.(I will believe it when I see it.) I asked them to send me literature about it. (This was about two weeks ago. I haven't received anything yet, so I'm getting pretty skeptical.) If anyone else has information regarding this, please post. I will follow-up on my contact when I get literature. Skip Montanaro (montanaro@sprite.steinmetz.ge.com, montanaro@ge-crd.arpa) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 14:53:35 CDT From: Frank W Peters <PETERS@MSSTATE.BITNET> Subject: Configuration File for sendmail.mx? I am attempting to set up a sun 3/160 as a mailrelay/maildrop for some of our internet link. I am running sendmail.mx instead of sendmail but appear to still be looking up hosts via ypserv. I am having trouble figuring out exactly what in sendmail.cf must be changed. Does anyone out there have any pointers? A working sample configuration file would be ideal. Please send to me directly as I'm sure the rest of this list isn't interested in a flood of configuration files (those things are a pain aren't they?) Frank Peters bitnet: peters@msstate internet: peters%msstate.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu You-might-also-try: peters@rt.cc.msstate.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 16:57:57 EDT From: Ned Danieley <ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu> Subject: 451 on Sun4? I wanted a 753! I just received a 4/280 with 2 of the 900 Meg disks, and it has the same tired old Xylogics 451 controller that we got two years ago on our 3/280. I just *assumed* that we would get a decent (ie, 32 bit) controller with a brand-new machine and almost 2 gigabytes of disk. Has anyone been able to swap their 451 for a 753 or 7053? Did it cost? Is Sun maintaining it? I'm using a couple of Ciprico controllers, but since Sun doesn't accept them for maintenance, I don't feel like I can get rid of the 451, and it irritates me to be stuck with that slow thing. Ned Danieley (ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu) Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory Box 3140, Duke University Medical Center Durham, NC 27710 (919) 684-6807 or 684-6942 ------------------------------ Date: 14 Oct 88 22:26:32 GMT From: heather@cs.ucla.edu Subject: UUCP, bug or feature? I have a technical question regarding uucp administration. I am setting my Sun 3/50 up to call another computer using uucp. I already have the modem set up and have successfully transferred files with uucp. The modem is Hayes compatible. The problem is that when uucico runs, it sets the auto-answer bit of the modem to on. This condition is not reset when uucico ends. I do not want the modem to be in auto-answer mode because my telephone line is used for people to call in during times that uucp is not running. I had the same problem with the tip program when I was first testing the modem and found a way around it by modifying the /etc/remote file so that it not only dialed the phone number but also specifically set the auto-answer register to off (0). i.e instead of using ####### as the phone number I used S0=0#######. I have not found a similar work around for uucp. What can you suggest? Thank you, Heather Burris, UCLA Sun software support administrator ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Oct 88 11:27:14 +0100 From: mcvax!cgch!whna@uunet.uu.net (Heinz Naef) Subject: SunLink MCP RS-449 ports (0,1) configured as RS-232? The SunLink Multiprotocol Communication Processor (MCP) board allows to use the two RS-449 ports in either the RS-449 or the RS-232 mode, by setting the appropriate jumper(s) J1501 or J1502, respectively (refer to brochure SunLink MCP Configuration Procedures, table 1 on page 3, which itself refers to the Installation Manual for cabling diagrams). In the manual "4 Channel SunLink Multiprotocol Communications Processor Field Service Manual and Installation Notes" there are only diagrams for RS-449--RS-449 and RS-232--RS-232 connections. There is no diagram showing the mapping of the RS-232 signals onto the 37-pin RS-449 connector when configured for RS-232. Could anyone mail me the pin configuration? Thanks in advance and best regards, Heinz Naef, c/o CIBA-GEIGY AG, R-1032.5.62, P.O.Box, CH-4002 Basel, Switzerland Internet: whna%cgch.uucp@uunet.uu.net UUCP: whna@cgch.uucp Phone: (+41) 61 697 26 75 BITNET: whna%cgch.uucp@cernvax.bitnet Fax: (+41) 61 697 32 88 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 15:55:55 EDT From: "John Bennett" <novavax!proxftl!johnb@bikini.cis.ufl.edu> Subject: 60M tape compatibility? We have a some Suns with the standard 60M tape drives. We would like to be able to exchange tapes with some non-Sun 386 machines. I would appreciate any information about hardware and software to do this. Email: uflorida!novavax!proxftl!johnb uunet!proxftl!johnb USmail: 3511 NE 22nd Ave. Fort Lauderdale FL 33308 Voice: (305) 566-3511 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 88 10:24:56 CDT From: Daniel Goldman <goldman@mbir.bcm.tmc.edu> Subject: Motorola? Does anyone out there get software/hardware support from Motorola? What's your satisfaction with the level of support, compared with SUN? Daniel Goldman (goldman@mbir.bcm.tmc.edu) Department of Cell Biology Baylor College of Medicine Houston, TX 77030 ------------------------------ End of SUN-Spots Digest ***********************