[comp.sys.sun] On changes to the Usenet side of Sun-Spots

montnaro@uunet.uu.net (Skip Montanaro) (11/10/88)

The survey results posted in v7n5 show:

    The undigestify group (regardless of moderation) holds a slight edge:
    52.7%.  However, looking at the demographic breakdown reveals something
    very interesting.  First, the Usenet readers' vote:

	       Votes  Percentage
	    A:  129     31.77
	    B:  216     53.20
	    C:   60     14.78
	    D:    1     00.25

    The undigestify group takes a definite edge here:  67.98%.  Now let's look

This leaves a significant fraction of Usenet people (32%) who like 'Spots
in digest form. I suggest you form a new newsgroup, comp.sys.sun.digest,
that will carry the same content as the future comp.sys.sun, but in digest
form, like the Internet mailing list and the current comp.sys.sun.

As I stated in my response to the survey, I archive Sun-Spots. It would be
more tedious to keep and use archives that were not in digest format.

Skip Montanaro (montanaro@sprite.steinmetz.ge.com, montanaro@ge-crd.arpa)

[[ To my knowledge, that's never been tried on the Usenet before.  I
strongly suspect that many will object to it because of the unnecessary
use of bandwidth (each message will, in essence, be sent twice).  There
will be enough information in the Usenet message headers to reconstruct
the digests if you desire that format.  If there is sufficient need, I
will even write the program to do it for you.  Finally, if you really
really need the digests as distributed, you can always ask to have your
address added to the Sun-Spots main mailing list.  --wnl ]]

lmb@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Larry Blair) (12/04/88)

In article <2189@kalliope.rice.edu> Sun-Spots@Rice.edu writes:
[ Sun-Spots didn't write anything! It was Skip Mantanaro <montnaro@steinmetz>]
>...
>As I stated in my response to the survey, I archive Sun-Spots. It would be
>more tedious to keep and use archives that were not in digest format.

I, too, archive sunspots.  It was pretty simple to set up an archive by
adding a user, named "sunspots", to the Internet mailing list.  The user
has a .forward file with:

"|sh /u1/sunspots/spotsave"

Spotsave is a script:

ARCHIVE=/u4/spotarch
cat - >/tmp/spots$$
vol=`sed -n -e '/ Sun-Spots Digest, /{' \
-e 's/^\(.*, \)\(.*\)$/\2/p' \
-e q \
-e } \
/tmp/spots$$`
start=`sed -n -e '/^SUN-SPOTS DIGEST/{' \
-e = \
-e q \
-e } \
/tmp/spots$$`
tail +$start /tmp/spots$$ | compress > $ARCHIVE/$vol.Z
rm /tmp/spots$$
-- 
Larry Blair   ames!vsi1!lmb   lmb%vsi1.uucp@ames.arc.nasa.gov

lmb@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Larry Blair) (12/15/88)

Oops... the script I posted had only been tested with locally generated
mail, not with mail coming in our the net.  Your need to change the "tail"
and "compress" commands to "/usr/ucb/tail" and "/usr/ucb/compress" (or
modify $PATH).

Larry Blair   ames!vsi1!lmb   lmb%vsi1.uucp@ames.arc.nasa.gov