manager@a.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Cris Fuhrman, Systems Manager) (04/04/89)
Salut, (I posted this a couple of weeks ago, but never saw it appear on INFO-VAX or comp.periphs, so I'm guessing that there was a problem) Here at COE, we're looking into obtaining a high-capacity tape drive to ease some of the data backup pains we've been experiencing for some time. We have the following computers: o VAX 11/785 running VMS (1600 bpi 9-track tape drive) o 10 Sun 3/50/60's running Sun OS 3.5 (1/4" SCSI drive on servers) o Harris HCX/9 running HCX/UX 3.0 (1600 bpi 9-track tape drive) For the most part, the rattle and hum on the net mainly deals with ExaByte 8mm drive systems. As many of you in education well know, the bidding process that exists to obtain equipment may not always yield the most popular choice in a product (especially since the most popular is usually the most expensive). So I'm asking where I can get some information about high-capacity tape drives OTHER than ExaByte. I have brochures from the following companies: Company Product Name ------------------------------------ ----------------- Eakins Associates, Inc. miniMAX (8-mm) Transitional Technology, Inc. CTS-8 (8-mm) Summus Computer Systems GIGA Tape (8-mm) Digi-Data Corporation GIGA Store (VHS) ExaByte EXB-8200 (8-mm) If you've had experience with any of these products (or any OTHER high-capacity tape systems), could you please send me your comments (or at least try to answer some of the questions that follow). I've obtained the reviews about ExaByte drives from back issues of comp.sys.sun's sunspots (Anon FTP from titan.rice.edu). The information is very helpful. As I mentioned, however, I'm not sure that we will be able to go with that product, as it's cost is higher than other 8mm systems. As for general criteria concerning hi-cap tape systems, here's what we came up with while considering a system: 1) VHS tape vs 8mm tape systems: How do they compare? We only have info on one VHS system (GIGA Store). It seems to have a lower error rate (1 bit/10^23 vs the 1 bit/10^24 of the 8mm systems). The data transfer rate is slower in this VHS system (about 2 times slower than 8mm systems). It holds about .5 Gb more than the 8mm's. 2) SCSI vs Pertec vs other drive interfaces. What's the most flexible? The Sun's obviously are hardwared towards SCSI. There exists a SCSI board for Qbus/Unibus of the VAX. What's the deal with Pertec? 3) Recoverable errors vs Non-Recoverable errors. What's the difference? Some of the brochures mention Error Correcting Code (ECC) and recoverable/non-recoverable errors. How does this relate to the hard error rate of the device? What's the error rate on say a DEC TU80 1600 bpi 9-track tape drive? 4) Buffer size. What difference would a 256K buffer make vs. a 512K buffer? Most of the systems we've seen have a 256K buffer. 5) (yuck, afraid to ask this one) Softare Drivers. How easy is it to change over your system (Vax VMS/Sun OS 3.5) to the new device? Are there major changes to the way the tape utilities (BACKUP/tar) work? 6) (last but not least) Price. The ones we've seen have ranged from $5000 - $7000. Do any companies offer educational discounts? Please send replies to manager@a.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu as I will summarize to the net. I am very appreciative of the knowledge that one can gain from the net, and I feel obliged to put back as much as I take (plus I have to report this information to my boss, so, why not give a copy to the net!) -Cris Cris Fuhrman, Systems Manager WVU College of Engineering Morgantown WV 26506-6101 internet: manager@a.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu bitnet:....manager%wvucoe@wvnvms