[comp.sys.sun] Help with 4.0 upgrade on Sun 3/260

gwl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Gerry Lawrence) (04/26/89)

I've just been (conned) into upgrading to 4.0 on our 3/260.  We've got two
Fujitsu 2333's, 8 megs of ram and a 1/4inch tape drive.  I can get all the
way through the suninstall forms up until the "Installation" menu item,
which immediately gives:

        Bus error: core dumped

Ulch!  I've tried different disk partitions, different options, to no
avail.  Has anyone had this problem?

By the way we had a disk crash several weeks ago, which left many of the
files trahed, one of the reasons for the upgrade.

[[ Tread very carefully when running suninstall.  DO NOT TYPE AHEAD at
all.  If you are impatient and hit keys before suninstall is ready to read
them, it may core dump.  This was our experience when upgrading a 3/280
with suninstall.  This may or may not be the source of your problem, but
it is something to be careful about.  --wnl ]]

Thanks in advance

Gerry Lawrence      

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mlindsey@x102c.harris-atd.com (Lindsey MS 04396) (05/06/89)

gwl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Gerry Lawrence) writes:
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>
>I've just been (conned) into upgrading to 4.0 on our 3/260.  We've got two
>Fujitsu 2333's, 8 megs of ram and a 1/4inch tape drive.  I can get all the
>way through the suninstall forms up until the "Installation" menu item,
>which immediately gives:
>
>        Bus error: core dumped

I ran into a similar problem once installing SUN OS 4.0 on a SUN 3/260
with a vt100 console.  It seems that suninstall under 4.0 requires a
bit-mapped console for the "Installation" portion of the install.  Once
the installation was complete, I was able to switch back to a non-SUN
console.

So if you are using a non-SUN console, try borrowing a SUN monitor from
someone and give it a try.

Good luck!

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mcgrew@topaz.rutgers.edu (Charles) (05/06/89)

Hi,
	gwl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Gerry Lawrence) writes:
	> ... I can get all the way through the suninstall forms up
	> until the "Installation" menu item, which immediately gives:
	>
        	>Bus error: core dumped

	> Ulch!  I've tried different disk partitions, different
	> options, to no avail.  Has anyone had this problem?

Your 'bus error' problem may be due to (believe it or not) a termcap
error.  We used a v200 for setups on one of our servers, and due to a
missing termcap value (for some function that is performed only at
install-start), we'd get that result.  Our solution was to either use a
terminal whose termcap existed (vt100, for instance), or rcp a 'real'
termcap file from somewhere else before running suninstall.

Hope that helps,

Charles

henk@uunet.uu.net (Henk Langeveld) (05/06/89)

gwl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Gerry Lawrence) writes:

>I've just been (conned) into upgrading to 4.0 on our 3/260.  We've got two
>Fujitsu 2333's, 8 megs of ram and a 1/4inch tape drive.  I can get all the
>way through the suninstall forms up until the "Installation" menu item,
>which immediately gives:

>        Bus error: core dumped

>Ulch!  I've tried different disk partitions, different options, to no
>avail.  Has anyone had this problem?

Yes, we had the same trouble in january.  I presume you are using ttya
as a console ? (i.e. You haven't got a sun console, keyboard and mouse).

This is a documented bug, look in the CDB.  The problem is that the
TERMCAP definition cannot be set from within suninstall, its buffer for
the termcap entry is too small.  If you set the TERMCAP variable with
the correct value before running suninstall, you should have no
problems.  (This took us, sun NL, two weeks, plus a hardware engineer
for half a day at our site swapping boards, until they realised what was
happening).

>Tread very carefully when running suninstall.  DO NOT TYPE AHEAD at
>all.  If you are impatient and hit keys before suninstall is ready to read
>them, it may core dump.  This was our experience when upgrading a 3/280
>with suninstall.  This may or may not be the source of your problem, but
>it is something to be careful about.  --wnl

I know nothing of problems with typeahead in suninstall, apart from the
stupid program reacting a bit slow.  [[ Well, it may have just been us.
Hard to tell sometimes, and "suninstall" is not something we use that
often (so it's not worth the effort of tracking down problems in it).
--wnl ]]

Henk Langeveld
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todds@uunet.uu.net (Todd Sandor) (05/07/89)

gwl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Gerry Lawrence) writes:
>X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 7, Issue 254, message 3 of 12
>I've just been (conned) into upgrading to 4.0 on our 3/260.  We've got two
>way through the suninstall forms up until the "Installation" menu item,
>which immediately gives:
>        Bus error: core dumped

You don't mension which terminal type your using for the install, but if
its a '4.) Other', before running suninstall you must

# set noglob
# eval `tset -s vt100`
# unset noglob
# suninstall

Then continue on (go slow, as the typeahead feature doesn't work to good),
this assumes a vt100, if its not, enter the terminal type in vt100 spot.
This is done right after boot the mini-unix (or whatever its called) from
the swap partition.  Don't forget the post install fixes, the 4.0.1 fixes,
their post install fixes, then the itrunc patches, then the security
patches, the yapt5.4 fixes, etc....(the story continues....).  Its a very
good idea to talk to you local Sun support to get them to help you out on
which 4.0.1 patches you should install, the README for it describes some
patches you may not think you need but really do (ie.winlibs,ldcore), and
hopefully they know what they are talking about.  We just upgrades our
environment (12 Servers, with 80+ workstations), and are till having a few
problems that have to be worked out.  My recommendation is that unless
your forced into it (ie. SMD controllers require it,or for software
reasons) don't upgrade to 4.0.1, wait for 4.1.

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perl@step.UUCP (Robert Perlberg) (05/11/89)

gwl@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Gerry Lawrence) writes:
> I've just been (conned) into upgrading to 4.0 on our 3/260.  We've got two
> Fujitsu 2333's, 8 megs of ram and a 1/4inch tape drive.  I can get all the
> way through the suninstall forms up until the "Installation" menu item,
> which immediately gives:
> 
>         Bus error: core dumped
> 
> Ulch!  I've tried different disk partitions, different options, to no
> avail.  Has anyone had this problem?

We did.  Our configuration is a Sun-3/280 with no monitor.  We use a
vt100-like terminal on ttya as the console.  We were told by Sun to type
something like this:

eval `tset -m:vt100`

before running suninstall.  Apparently Sun didn't test suninstall enough
on such a configuration.

Robert Perlberg
Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York
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	-- "I am not a language ... I am a free man!"

jam@philabs.philips.com (John A. Murphy) (05/11/89)

Several people have described the "official" patch from Sun for getting
around the ASCII console problem during an install.  Another method is to
simply do an

stty echo 
(blindly) so you can see what you are typing.  Then if you do an ls -F
in /usr/etc/install you will see an executable program called
"installation".  So with a simple

# installation

your installation will continue just fine.  Used this over half a dozen
times with no problem.

Murf
John A. Murphy                          jam@philabs.philips.com
345 Scarborough Road
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(914)945-6216 

zjat02@uunet.uu.net (Jon A. Tankersley) (05/17/89)

The problem is not that SunOS 4.x expects a Sun monitor, but rather there
are some beta-test errors still in the 4.0 FCS tapes (Boy was I pissed
when I found them......  Should never have survived Beta testing that
one).

Before going into suninstall do the following
setenv TERM vt100
set noglob
eval `tset -s $TERM`
unset noglob

This will correctly set the environment.

Problem also occurs if you are trying to install software on a
heterogenous server at a later date than the suninstall.

Other problems with 4.0 FCS - top of the head response....  netmask +
doesn't have the hostname field in rc.local.  rc scripts don't handle
setting netmasks on ie1

for gateway systems:
rc.single doesn't have hostname set properly on ifconfig for ie1.
rc.single expects hostname to be host-gw but that fact isn't commented
   ANYWHERE I read.  host-gw must exist in /etc/hosts.

in.named is not run before mount -at nfs.  Can cause problems if the
   hosts requested are not in /etc/hosts but are in the named database.

syslog.conf bug with define(LOGHOST, 1) for loghost systems.
yp problems with named.  (separate patches available).
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