[comp.sys.sun] Sun usable disk SCSI ID's

neil@uunet.uu.net (Neil Gorsuch) (05/16/89)

I recently posted some information on connecting SCSI disks to
Sun workstations.  An employee of Sun requested that I post the
following clarification:

> Sunos allows 4 SCSI addresses to be used for disks.  On certain models,
> such as 3/50's and 3/60's, you can put up to 2 disks per SCSI address....
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I'd appreciate it if you'd repost with the correct information (Sun
Employees are not supposed to post...) below on SCSI configurations.
Essentially, the number of disks is not limited or static.

a) the kernel structures are not static - .../sundev/sc_conf.c gets remade
with NSD set to the correct number based on the number of sd? lines in
your kernel config file.

b) .../OBJ/sd.h has nothing to do with it - .../sun3/KERNELNAME/sd.h is
the file created by config and used by sc_conf.c when you make a kernel.

c) There are 8 SCSI addresses, and 8 Logical Unit Numbers available in the
Sun SCSI implementation - the Sun Host Adaptor take address 7, so there
are 7 free.  Asumming you have a tape at address 4, this makes more like
48 possible disks on a SCSI bus. 6 if you are using Embedded SCSI (direct)
controllers with no LUN's.

d) drive addresses may be specified in octal, and 011 for ctlr 1, drive 1
seems clearer to me - Consulting issues config files and instructions in
this format.  Someday the rest of Sun will too...
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I stand corrected.  I was telling the numbers that I knew would work, and
I'm happy that it is indeed dynamic and that more than 4 disk drives
can be added.  The sd.h information that I had was from another Sun
customer.  However, because of scsi signal constraints, the most
I have put on a single system is 4 disks and 2 tapes, and that took quite
a bit of experimentation to make it work.  Also, the only SCSI/ESDI
convertor board that works for formatting and everything else that I
know of is the Emulex MD21, which only allows disks to be addressed
at LUNs 0 and 1.  I have heard of an MD25, which allows 4 ESDI drives
per SCSI id, but the real limitation is SCSI bus length and driver
capabilities.

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dupuy@cs.columbia.edu (Alexander Dupuy) (05/18/89)

> c) There are 8 SCSI addresses, and 8 Logical Unit Numbers available in the
> Sun SCSI implementation - the Sun Host Adaptor take address 7, so there
> are 7 free.  Asumming you have a tape at address 4, this makes more like
> 48 possible disks on a SCSI bus. 6 if you are using Embedded SCSI (direct)
> controllers with no LUN's.

I find this interesting, and yet puzzling, since we have run Exabyte tapes
with the thumbwheel SCSI ID (=?= SCSI address) set to 7, and it seems to
work fine.  If in fact the Host Adaptor uses address 7, this would seem
not to prevent tapes or disks from using this address as well (perhaps
because they are not SCSI masters?).  Here are the relevant lines from our
GENERIC Sun-3 config:

controller      sc0 at vme24d16 ? csr 0x200000 priority 2 vector scintr 0x40
disk            sd0 at sc0 drive 0 flags 0
disk            sd1 at sc0 drive 1 flags 0
disk            sd2 at sc0 drive 8 flags 0
#disk           sd3 at sc0 drive 9 flags 0
tape            st0 at sc0 drive 32 flags 1
tape            st1 at sc0 drive 40 flags 1
#disk           sf0 at sc0 drive 8 flags 2
tape            smt0 at sc0 drive 48 flags 4
tape            smt1 at sc0 drive 56 flags 4
controller      si0 at vme24d16 ? csr 0x200000 priority 2 vector siintr 0x40
controller      si0 at obio ? csr 0x140000 priority 2
disk            sd0 at si0 drive 0 flags 0
disk            sd1 at si0 drive 1 flags 0
disk            sd2 at si0 drive 8 flags 0
disk            sd3 at si0 drive 9 flags 0
tape            st0 at si0 drive 32 flags 1
tape            st1 at si0 drive 40 flags 1
#disk           sf0 at si0 drive 8 flags 2
tape            smt0 at si0 drive 48 flags 4
tape            smt1 at si0 drive 56 flags 4
controller      se0 at vme24d16 ? csr 0x300000 priority 2 vector se_intr 0x40
disk            sd0 at se0 drive 0 flags 0
disk            sd1 at se0 drive 1 flags 0
disk            sd2 at se0 drive 8 flags 0
disk            sd3 at se0 drive 9 flags 0
tape            st0 at se0 drive 32 flags 1
tape            st1 at se0 drive 40 flags 1
tape            smt0 at se0 drive 48 flags 4
tape            smt1 at se0 drive 56 flags 4

The smt driver is from Delta Microsystems.

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