chew@ecf.utoronto.ca (Boon-Ping Chew) (11/08/89)
Many thanks to all who reply to my request about performance of a SUN 4/2xx against a SUN 4/3xx. The reason why I was looking at a SUN 4/280 and a SUN 4/330 is the price. We were give a good discount on the 4/280 making it attactive. We have not decided what to get yet, but it looks like the 4/330. The only plus going for the 4/280 is the strong possibility of future upgrades to a 20 Mips CPU. But the way system prices are falling in terms of price/performance, the picture will change constantly. Of course, I "never" get enough of memory but 56 Meg max should be sufficient of now. Boon ( standard disclaimers ) Reply to my posting are listed below. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- X-Subject: Sun 4/330 X-From: flynn@pixel.cps.msu.edu (Patrick J. Flynn) We have a 4/330, 24MB of memory, 2 327MB disks, and a GXP 3D accelerator. My rough impression is that it's about 60% faster than our 4/280 (32MB memory, 2 892MB disks) on my current mix of compute-intensive and I/O-intensive applications (image processing). Definitely a nice box. If you go with it and get the GXP option, *make sure* you order SunPHIGS with it. we're getting nothing from the accelerator right now because we didn't realize that the GXP is really a GP2 on 2 chips. Now we're waiting on PHIGS to arrive. Full-Name: Russ Poffenberger X-Subject: 4/280 vs 4/330 Certainly a 4/300 series is a much better value than the 4/200 series. We have a 4/370 and I love it. It is FAST (read quick). I have an XY753 in it connected to a CDC sabre 850 drive and I have NO problems. I read a post from somebody that the 330 has different ROMS (same CPU as the 370) that doesn't allow it to boot from an SMD controller, but I find this hard to believe. Even so, you could always boot initially from the SCSI and then let the SMD take over. X-Subject: Re: How good/reliable are the new SUN 330 fileserver ? X-From: mkatz@sesame.stanford.edu (Morris Katz) The 330 has higher CPU performance by about a factor of 1.5. The 280 has 8 slots and the 330 only has about 6 (I don't have the literature in front of me so I can't say for certain exactly how many slots the 330 has and how many of them are the full height/full width slots of the type in the 280.) Neither of these machines will handle the new IPI drives. The last time I checked, the 330 did not officially support the 6250bpi tape drive although there is every reason to believe that it works just fine with this machine. Lastly, the 330 is a newer machine so it will probably have a more attractive upgrade path in the future if you are worried about such things. X-Subject: Re: How good/reliable are the new SUN 330 fileserver ? X-From: ekrell@hector.att.com The 4/330 supports SCSI disks only. You should be looking at the 4/370. The closest to the configuration you want is the 4/370-S-32-P14 (32MB, 2 688MB SMD disks on an SMD-4 controller, 150MB 1/4" tape). List price is $77,900. A similar 4/280 configuration is the 4/280S-P11J (32MB, 892MB SMD disk on an SMD-4 controller). List price is $81,600. As you see, the 4/280 is more expensive and is slower (the SPARC on the 4/3xx runs at 25MHz versus 16.67MHz on the 4/280). That makes the raw CPU speed of the 4/3xx 50% faster. I see no reason to buy the 4/280. X-Subject: Re: SUN 330 vs. 4/280 X-From: Keith F Pilotti <sol!pilotti%Comsystems.SAIC.COM@esosun.css.gov> The Sparcstation 330 is a WONDERFUL machine. Fastest Sun ever! You can get a "datacenter server" version in rackmount, or a larger deskside server. The 25MHZ Sparc processor is in all the 4/3xx systems and is the way to go. DO NOT GO FOR A 4/280! It has a much slower clock speed and has an older processor. SPARC 330 5 slot pedestal SPARC 370 12 slot pedestal SPARC 390 16 slot rack X-Subject: Re: How good/reliable are the new SUN 330 fileserver ? X-From: mr@ritd.co.uk We have had a 4/330 for a few weeks. Its a damn good machine, but probably not what you want. You should look at the 4/370 package: same CPU, but bigger boxes that can take SMD drives. We just got one of these too, and it flies along. I can't think of any good reason for using an essentially obsolete 4/280 instead. 4/330 is SCSI disks only, upto ~1.3Gb. Comes with 8, 24 or 40Mbytes. 4/370 is SCSI or SMD, upto 16 drives (currently 688MBytes each). Only comes in 32 or 56Mbyte flavours. Obviously you could go out and buy third party disks, etc. but I can't really comment on that as we don't.