[comp.sys.sun] Need info for initial SUN purchase

dlarson@blake.acs.washington.edu (Dale Larson) (02/19/90)

I am about to start my fourth year of study in computer science.  I don't
have access to a UNIX box for serious work but would very much like to.  I
am mostly interested in learning what I need to know to be useful to an
employer or (preferably) whomever I do graduate assistantship work for.
Given that I need to purchase the machine myself and that my budget will
break in the fairly low thousands, I think that a used SUN may well be the
right choice.  Am I wrong?  If not, just what should I be able to do with
the box?  Open Look? (What would a bare bones system be?)  Most recent
version of UNIX?  (What is the most recent SunOS and how far back can I go
without what I learn from it being hopelessly outdated?)  Is a SUN/2 such
a dinosaur that I should avoid it at all costs?  Is there any other advice
that anyone wishes to give me (other than the obvious response that I
should have picked a real school :-)

glang@uunet.uu.net (Gary Lang) (03/07/90)

In article <5134@brazos.Rice.edu>, dlarson@blake.acs.washington.edu (Dale Larson) writes:
> Given that I need to purchase the machine myself and that my budget will
> break in the fairly low thousands, I think that a used SUN may well be the
> right choice.  Am I wrong?  If not, just what should I be able to do with
> the box?  Open Look? (What would a bare bones system be?)  Most recent

I would say - get a NeXT machine. It's a Unix box that thinks you're a PC
user. It's cheaper than almost all similarly configured Suns except used
ones, and already has more GUI software running on it.  Check it out.

[[But can you run X on a NeXT? -bdg]]

lm@sun.com (Larry McVoy) (03/09/90)

In article <5565@brazos.Rice.edu> acad!megalon!glang@uunet.uu.net (Gary Lang) writes:
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>In article <5134@brazos.Rice.edu>, dlarson@blake.acs.washington.edu (Dale Larson) writes:
>> Given that I need to purchase the machine myself and that my budget will
>> break in the fairly low thousands, I think that a used SUN may well be the
>> right choice.  Am I wrong? 
>
>I would say - get a NeXT machine....

Hmmm.  I'll plug Sun :-)  A SS1 is 9K diskless list.  You can get drives
for about a grand each from Quantum (I'm told anyway).  Probably want one
of the 200meg jobbies.  That's 10K list.  If you can't afford that, then I
would move away from this sort of machine altogether and look hard at a
386 running Xenix.  They're not bad boxes - for a home machine they beat a
Sun3 in several ways - cheap, lots of third party parts, you can replace
parts yourself, etc, etc.  Check out comp.sys.i386 - they talk about this
stuff.  You should be able to put together a nice machine for around 4K w/
software (you can get a lot free from FSF).

What I say is my opinion.  I am not paid to speak for Sun, I'm paid to hack.
    Besides, I frequently read news when I'm drjhgunghc, err, um, drunk.
Larry McVoy, Sun Microsystems     (415) 336-7627       ...!sun!lm or lm@sun.com