[comp.sys.sun] info needed: IPI disk

era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold) (03/14/90)

Having received conflicting information from Sun and 3rd party vendors,
we're looking for someone out there who knows something about the IMPRIMIS
(aka CDC/Seagate) IPI disks sold by Sun for the 4/490, as well as
3rd-party alternates.  If you have info, please e-mail me; I will
summarize to sun-spots.

What I've been trying to find out is what disk drive is Sun selling as
their 706A/707A disk unit.  I've been variously told by third party
vendors that this disk is a CDC-97209-12G, CDC-97229-12G, and a
CDC-97200-1230.  About half of the vendors swear that the CDC-97200-1230
is the SMD-4 version.  I'm inclined to believe these vendors because
they've sounded more knowledgeable overall.  This leaves the CDC-97209-12G
and the CDC-97229-12G.  These are supposedly IPI-2 disk drives with a 1.2
Gbyte unformatted capacity.  The CDC-97209-12G is supposedly a
single-headed drive, and the CDC-97229-12G is supposedly a dual-headed
drive.  Finally, everyone seems to agree that the ISP-80 (408A/409A)
controller that Sun sells is manufactured only by/for Sun.

The greater unknowns follow.  Namely, is Sun selling the CDC-97209-12G or
the CDC-97229-12G as the 706A/707A.  The apparently knowledgeable third
party vendors seem to be evenly split on this matter.  They also are split
on whether Sun has an exclusive right to sell the CDC-97229-12G.  Some
claim only Sun and certain OEMs are allowed to purchase these disks, and
others claim certain smart VARs with superior contracts prior to the Sun
exlusive contract can also purchase these disks.  One vendor told me that
the third party sellers of the 97229 have to be purchasing their disks
from the OEMs.

Another matter concerns mounting hardware.  Only a few of the vendors
seemed aware that the new Sun Data Center Server tower-style cabinets
require mounting hardware different from the 19" racks.  Only one said
they would be able to supply this hardware.

Our local Sun rep has been unable to shed much light on the matter.  He
swears that the 706A/707A disks are single-headed models and have only a 3
Mbyte/sec transfer rate.  He also swears he's never heard of a dual-headed
model with 6 Mbyte/sec transfer rates.  Does anyone know what's really
going on here?  Finally, how does the dual-headed model achieve
performance improvement?  Is it seen by the system as two drives with
completely separate and independent hardware paths, or is some more
sophisticated hardware and software scheme being used?

Any confirmation, refutation, clarification, and/or amplification of this
information would be appreciated.

kriger@xylogics.com (Sidney Kriger) (03/20/90)

In article <5752@brazos.Rice.edu> era@ncar.ucar.edu (Ed Arnold) writes:
>X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 9, Issue 82, message 7
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>...  This leaves the CDC-97209-12G
>and the CDC-97229-12G.  These are supposedly IPI-2 disk drives with a 1.2
>Gbyte unformatted capacity.

First, you had correctly identified which Seagate (acquired Imprimis from
CDC) drives were IPI-2 drives and what the distinctions were.  The
CDC-97209-12G and the CDC-97229-12G are both IPI-2 drives.  The
CDC-97209-12G operates at 3 MB/s.  The CDC-97229-12G has a burst data
transfer rate of 6 MB/s.  This drive achieves 6 MB/s by splitting the data
on WRITEs between two 3 MB/s heads as they write data in parallel to
different physical disk locations and by interleaving the data read by the
two heads back together on READs.  The unformatted capacity of each model
is 1.2 GB.

Secondly, Sun does manufacture its own IPI-2 disk controller.

IPI-2 will be available from third party vendors.  Fujitsu, Hitachi, NEC
and Seagate (alphabetical order only) all manufacture IPI-2 disk drives.
They can supply information on their IPI-2 disk drive models, capacities,
burst data transfer rates and availabilities.  Xylogics IPI-2 disk
controllers will be available from our distributors for delivery in early
May.  The SV7890 is a dual-channel IPI-2 disk controller and the SV6890 is
a single-channel model.  The dual-channel model acts like two controllers
operating in parallel, doubling the capacity and nearly doubling the
transfer rate for a single slot when compared with a single-channel
controller.  We have integrated our controllers with the four
manufacturers' drives, including the CDC-97229-12G.  Xylogics will support
IPI-2 on Sun-3 and Sun-4 platforms running SunOS 4.0 and up, although we
may limit support to certain models early on.

Sidney Kriger

Xylogics, Inc.                 email:  kriger@Xylogics.COM
53 Third Ave.                  voice:  617-272-8140
Burlington, MA  01803          fax:    617-273-5392

dupuy@cs.columbia.edu (03/22/90)

Your Sun salesman was right that the Sun IPI disk is "single-headed" (not
that it has a single read/write head, but that it can only read/write to a
single head at a time).  So you can reasonably assume that the Sun
706A/707A disk is the CDC-97209-12G.  This same disk drive is availbale
from a number of third party peripheral suppliers (Falcon, and National
Peripherals, to name but two).

The CDC-97229-12G "double-headed" is the same physical disk as the 97209,
with modified electronics that support interleaved I/O to pairs of heads.
Since the disk normally has an odd number of data heads (15), some
capacity is lost relative to the 97209 (1154 MB unformatted, rather than
1230MB unformatted).  The disk geometry appears to have half as many
tracks/cylinder (rounded down), but each track is twice as long.  To quote
from the Imprimis blurb:

	The 6MB/sec data rate is attained by reading form and writing to
	two heads simultaneously.  The splitting of the data on a write
	and the combination of the data on a read is done entirely by
	the disk drive and is transparent to the disk controller and/or
	adapter.  The data may be interleaved across the head pair using
	a bit, byte or word interleave scheme.

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