[comp.sys.sun] Looking for Advice re. Interleaf vs. FrameMaker

philf@xymox.metaphor.com (Phil Fernandez) (07/12/90)

I am getting ready to make a purchase decision for my engineering group
here at Metaphor for a Sun/X-based technical publishing system.  I am
looking for advice to help me choose between Interleaf and Frame.

Our primary application is the production of software engineering design
specifications (text and graphics), as well as other ancillary technical
material.  The publishing system will be used on diskful, monochrome
SparcStation1+ workstations with plenty of memory, running X11.4.

There is one key external factor benefiting Frame, which is that our
Technical Publications group uses Frame to produce our product
documentation, and some of the other engineering groups at Metaphor also
make small use of Frame.  On the other hand, a key development partner of
ours uses Interleaf, and it would be of great benefit to share machine
readable publications with them.

Can anyone share some advice on this decision?  I'm interested in all
perspectives, recommendations, and caveats.  Does anyone have experience
in a mixed FrameMaker/Interleaf environment?  Is document exchange between
the systems possible?  Reasonable?

Please send me e-mail directly; I'd be glad to post a summary to the net
if there's interest.  Also, is there by any chance a better newsgroup on
which I should have posted this message?

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datri@uunet.uu.net (Anthony A. Datri) (07/17/90)

>material.  The publishing system will be used on diskful, monochrome
>SparcStation1+ workstations with plenty of memory, running X11.4.

If Interleaf runs at all under X, it's news to me.  Frame's 2.1X is due to
be released RSN; betas are out.  They'll give you a 1.3X for now if you
push, although it's flaky.

>make small use of Frame.  On the other hand, a key development partner of
>ours uses Interleaf, and it would be of great benefit to share machine
>readable publications with them.

Hah -- sounds like Stepstone.  My predecessor there bought Interleaf, and
I had no end of problems with it.  Interleaf licensing (at least then) is
by *hostid*, and expensive.  I had lots of problems getting Interleaf to
stay running.  Interleaf creates a "desktop" directory under ~ for each
user, and goes apeshit if this directory gets confused, which happens
often.  Frame puts your files wherever you want them, without obfuscation.
Frame also has reasonable PostScript support -- Interleaf doesn't.  Frame
licensing is done via RPC -- you have a number of licenses, which anyone
can use (you can also reserve some for specific users/machines if you
ike).  Interleaf printing is an unbelievable nightmare, as is the
installation process.  Printing with Frame is *easy* -- everything goings
through an FMlpr script, which you can easily tailor to use lpr (or
whatever) appropriately for each printer.

>in a mixed FrameMaker/Interleaf environment?  Is document exchange between
>the systems possible?  Reasonable?

I think Frame gives you an Interleaf input filter, but I'm not sure.

>Please send me e-mail directly; I'd be glad to post a summary to the net
>if there's interest.  Also, is there by any chance a better newsgroup on
>which I should have posted this message?

comp.text, which no-one reads:-)