[comp.sys.sun] WingZ doesn't work well, even under SunView

gnu@toad.com (11/27/90)

My company bought WingZ for handling our financial planning.  We have been
quite disappointed.  Not only does it not run under Open Windows 1.0 on a
SPARCstation-1 GX, SunOS 4.0.3c (it core dumps periodically), but even
when we take down the window system and run SunView (:-*), it's a lousy
spreadsheet.  Perhaps all spreadsheets are like this, but I couldn't
believe that there is no way in it to say 'this column of numbers should
come from the spreadsheet called "March", column 1, rows 1-50 every time I
open it' for example.  Building annual sheets involves copying all the
numbers by hand -- and they don't update when the originals update.  There
is some feature that purports to do this, but you have to laboriously open
up all twelve monthly spreadsheets on the screen and THEN open up the
annual one.  Haven't these guys heard of the file system?

The user interface is klunky in a number of other ways.  Perhaps this is a
state of the art spreadsheet, but in that case I think we need some
evolution in spreadsheet technology.  Perhaps it is just a hangover from
the DOS/Mac world where it is assumed that if anything gets done it is
because the user pushed a key or a mouse button.  But automation of
commonly done tasks is one reason we're all on Unix, and WingZ just
doesn't have that attitude.

	John Gilmore

bauman@shell.com (Evan G. Bauman) (12/08/90)

>The user interface is klunky in a number of other ways.  Perhaps this is a
>state of the art spreadsheet, but in that case I think we need some
>evolution in spreadsheet technology.  Perhaps it is just a hangover from
>the DOS/Mac world where it is assumed that if anything gets done it is
>because the user pushed a key or a mouse button.  But automation of
>commonly done tasks is one reason we're all on Unix, and WingZ just
>doesn't have that attitude.

The consensus around here is that Wingz is one of the most poorly
programmed pieces of commercial software we've ever seen for Suns.  It
updates the screen too many times for simple mouse movements.  And on some
computers, these screen updates take up to 20 seconds! (Try running Wingz
on a color 386i-20).  I have a Sparc 1+GX and even I get tired of waiting
for Wingz screen updates.

It also crashes periodically under sunview.  There aren't enough keyboard
shortcuts for mouse commands.  I find that using Wingz for an afternoon
can make my mouse hand cramp up.  I never had this happen with other
software.

I hope the next version is a better product.

	Evan G. Bauman - Combustion/Reaction Engineering
	Shell Development Company - Westhollow Research Center
	PO Box 1380; Houston, TX 77251-1380
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