[comp.sys.sun] SIMMs: What kind?

dvanderr@oracle.com (Danny Vanderryn) (12/09/90)

I'm looking to buy more memory for my SS1.  Does anyone know:

1) does it use standard 1M X 8 boards?  1M X 9?  same as IBM?  Apple?
2) what kind of 4M boards does it use?
3) anyone know any reliable & cheap 3rd party vendors? w/ corporate rates?

	   (Sun's list prices: 4M (4 1M boards): $1000, 16M(4x4M): $3500

ken@marob.masa.com (Ken Stamm) (12/13/90)

In article <722@brchh104.bnr.ca> dvanderr@oracle.com (Danny Vanderryn) writes:
>I'm looking to buy more memory for my SS1.  Does anyone know:
>
>1) does it use standard 1M X 8 boards?  1M X 9?  same as IBM?  Apple?
>2) what kind of 4M boards does it use?
>3) anyone know any reliable & cheap 3rd party vendors? w/ corporate rates?
>
>	   (Sun's list prices: 4M (4 1M boards): $1000, 16M(4x4M): $3500

Yes! the SS1 uses standard 1M X 9 simms. (100ns or better for 4/60 (ss1),
70ns or better for 4/65 (ss1+).)

I like Technology Works in Texas for SIMMs.  Cant remember the number, but
they advertise in MacWeek each week.  They have good customer service, if
you need it for SIMMSs... :-)

Ken Stamm (ken@slhisc.uucp, sun.com!gotham!slhisc!ken) (212)341-3868
Shearson Lehman Brothers, 390 Greenwich St. 4W, New York NY 10013

rhoward@msd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) (12/30/90)

In <833@brchh104.bnr.ca> slhisc!ken@marob.masa.com (Ken Stamm) writes:
>In article <722@brchh104.bnr.ca> dvanderr@oracle.com (Danny Vanderryn) writes:
>>I'm looking to buy more memory for my SS1.  Does anyone know:

>Yes! the SS1 uses standard 1M X 9 simms. (100ns or better for 4/60 (ss1),
>70ns or better for 4/65 (ss1+).)

Wrong!

4/60 *and* 4/65 use 100 ns or better. (Check out the stock chips in your
4/65.)  We use 80 ns chips as they are only ~$5-10 more and I sleep better
:-)

My salesman says that the 4/70 (SS2) uses 70ns or better (just in case you
think you might upgrade in the future; but don't forget that all 4/70's
will come with 16 MB so the point is moot.)  We have been paying the extra
~$30-40 for 70 ns 4M X 9 chips to plan against upgrades.

Robert L. Howard 
rhoward@msd.gatech.edu 

scott@labrea.stanford.edu (01/01/91)

> My salesman says that the 4/70 (SS2) uses 70ns or better (just in case you
> think you might upgrade in the future; but don't forget that all 4/70's
> will come with 16 MB so the point is moot.)  We have been paying the extra
> ~$30-40 for 70 ns 4M X 9 chips to plan against upgrades.

SunFLASH Vol 23 #8 said

	1. Memory
	In order to achieve its high performance, SPARCstation 2 requires
	80 nano-second SIMM modules. BUT NOT ALL 80-NANOSECOND SIMM MODULES CAN
	BE SUPPORTED.

Does anyone know which 80ns SIMMs *do* work?

Scott Weikart  415-322-9069
pyramid!cdp!scott   cdp!scott@labrea.stanford.com

dvanderr@oracle.com (Danny Vanderryn) (01/19/91)

Thanks to all of you who responded to my request for SS1+ memory vendors.
Namely (I apologize if I left anyone out):

ric@cs.arizona.edu
girish@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov
brendan@cs.widener.edu
ne201ph@prism.gatech.edu
hughes@azroth.csee.usf.edu
steinour%cc.gettysburg.edu@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
steve@hanauma.stanford.edu
dan@rose3.Rosemount.COM
kandt@ai-cyclops.JPL.NASA.GOV 
slhisc!ken@marob.masa.com

I ended up buying 16M of 4Mx9 80ns chips from Chip Merchant for $880.
They have a 5 year warranty.  This is not as good as Dataram's liftetime
warranty including cost of repairs of damage incurred by the chips, but
how often does memory damage other hardware anyway.  KMO had the same
price, but I made my choice based on the recommendation from
girish@heawk1.gsfc.nasa.gov. One board I bought was a bit difficult to
install, as it was slightly too thick for the slots (needed to be filed
down slightly) but otherwise I am quite satisfied. Shipping took about 2
weeks from faxing them a PO, but they also have rush shipping available.

New prices for Chip Merchant, KMO Technology, and Dataram are below, then
I re-sorted the lists. Of course, the reports are not exactly accurate, as
other vendors' prices have probably changed as well.

Chip Merchant		619 268 4774	45	220
Dataram 		800 822 0071	50	259
KMO Technology		408 945 7751	42	220

80ns SIMMS				1Mx9	4Mx9

(by name)

Acropolis 		408 946 6947	49	275
Andataco 		800 334 9191	57	275
Apex 			800 654 8222	67	390
Artecon 		800 872 2783	60	315
Chip Merchant		619 268 4774	45	220
Clearpoint 		800 253	2778	60	320
Computer Logistics	800 388 9270	?	?
Dataram 		800 822 0071	50	259
Dataram 		800 822 0071	?	?
Falcon 			800 326 1002	65	320
Helios 			614 451 3865	54	312
KMO Technology		408 945 7751	42	220
Megastor 		714 770 4360	59	305
Parity Systems		216 836 0247	51	288
Peripherals Design	404 263 0067	69	435
Rave 			919 676 2637	x	x
Solflower 		408 456 5055	?	?
Spectron 		206 827 9317	?	?
Technology Works	800 688 7466	45	289
Workstation Tech's	603 890 6700	78	410
Workstations Plus	800 735 5777	?	?

(by 1M price)

KMO Technology		408 945 7751	42	220
Chip Merchant		619 268 4774	45	220
Technology Works	800 688 7466	45	289
Acropolis 		408 946 6947	49	275
Dataram 		800 822 0071	50	259
Parity Systems		216 836 0247	51	288
Helios 			614 451 3865	54	312
Andataco 		800 334 9191	57	275
Megastor 		714 770 4360	59	305
Artecon 		800 872 2783	60	315
Clearpoint 		800 253	2778	60	320
Falcon 			800 326 1002	65	320
Apex 			800 654 8222	67	390
Peripherals Design	404 263 0067	69	435
Workstation Tech's	603 890 6700	78	410
Computer Logistics	800 388 9270	?	?
Rave 			919 676 2637	x	x
Solflower 		408 456 5055	?	?
Spectron 		206 827 9317	?	?
Workstations Plus	800 735 5777	?	?

(by 4M price)

KMO Technology		408 945 7751	42	220
Chip Merchant		619 268 4774	45	220
Dataram 		800 822 0071	50	259
Acropolis 		408 946 6947	49	275
Andataco 		800 334 9191	57	275
Parity Systems		216 836 0247	51	288
Technology Works	800 688 7466	45	289
Megastor 		714 770 4360	59	305
Helios 			614 451 3865	54	312
Artecon 		800 872 2783	60	315
Clearpoint 		800 253	2778	60	320
Falcon 			800 326 1002	65	320
Apex 			800 654 8222	67	390
Workstation Tech's	603 890 6700	78	410
Peripherals Design	404 263 0067	69	435
Computer Logistics	800 388 9270	?	?
Rave 			919 676 2637	x	x
Solflower 		408 456 5055	?	?
Spectron 		206 827 9317	?	?
Workstations Plus	800 735 5777	?	?

danny vanderryn--dvanderr@oracle.com