ABYKAT@UTCVM.BITNET (Alex Bykat) (03/24/91)
Well over two months ago Frame Technology Corp. advertized a free demo version of their FrameMaker. Repeated requests of the demo are ignored and telephone calls not responded to. In fact, even their sales managers (well, at least the one for Tennessee) has no better business manners: She promised to deal with that and call me back -- and this was the last thing that I heard from her. And all this trouble given to a paying customer with a number of copies of FrameMaker! (We have the Sunview version but want to move to X version). Were any of you treated in such a shoddy way, or is it only a regional feature? And let me remind those who shrug off such complaints: this is not a question of an offended ego; it actually interferes with our work - waiting almost 3 MONTHS FOR A RESPONSE!!!
ABYKAT%UTCVM.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Dr. A.Bykat) (04/02/91)
Here is a brief summary of responses to my report of problems encountered while trying to get the X version FrameMaker demo. In summary, I had 11 responses of which 6 were satisfied and 4 unsatisfied with their treatment by Frame Technology Corp. Now, that is a small sample, I agree, but it is very unflattering to that company! Below is my original note followed by extract from the responses: In article <2141@brchh104.bnr.ca> I wrote: >Well over two months ago Frame Technology Corp. advertized a free demo >version of their FrameMaker. Repeated requests of the demo are ignored and >telephone calls not responded to. In fact, even their sales managers >(well, at least the one for Tennessee) has no better business manners: She >promised to deal with that and call me back -- and this was the last thing >that I heard from her. > >And all this trouble given to a paying customer with a number of copies of >FrameMaker! (We have the Sunview version but want to move to X version). > >Were any of you treated in such a shoddy way, or is it only a regional >feature? And let me remind those who shrug off such complaints: this is >not a question of an offended ego; it actually interferes with our work - >awaiting almost 3 MONTHS FOR A RESPONSE!!! EXTRACTS FROM RESPONSES: X-From: pml4791@usl.edu (Landry Patrick M) I have always had great response from Frame. And I am not even a customer. I must have 3 or 4 of their demos lying about. X-From: kpearson@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Kathy Pearson) I deal directly with FRAME in California. The person who handles University accounts is Kelly Matson @ (408)954-3974. She is both courteous and efficient. X-From: mark@DRD.Com (Mark Lawrence) I've never experienced that kind of problem. Sounds like your mail isn't getting to you. E-mail address for Frame is comments@frame.com. X-From: beauchem@DMI.USherb.CA (Denis Beauchemin) I did have an excellent support from Frame Canada. They called me twice (at least) to follow up on my request. X-From: eirik@theory.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Eirik Fuller) We too had to wait what seemed like forever for a response from Frame. I don't know what to suggest except keep hassling them. X-From: teradyne!levinel@zehntel.com (Lewis Levine) I was told when I was out in San Jose and had an opportunity to visit Frame that the best way to do this was to 'request a demo copy and make sure your software maintenacne was up to date'.... ..... there was no problem getting the other tape, and generally no support problems. X-From: ec@cimage.com (Iain O'Cain/10000) I never received a response from Frame, either. From: colin@toshiba.tic.oz.au (Colin Sutton) They have always given us a fast (and helpful) response. X-From: bradshaw@qucis.queensu.ca (Tom Bradshaw) Since late last summer, framemaker has been crashing on our Sun 3 network. We started to report this to Frame in Nov/90. To this today, we do not know anything more about what is causing the problem even though we have sent many reports and core files to Frame. We are currently running version 2.1.1 .