ins_ajsk@jhunix.UUCP (Jonathan Simon Kay) (11/16/85)
Look what *I* found on net.general: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From aplcen!aplvax!umcp-cs!seismo!lll-crg!qantel!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!joe Wed Nov 13 15:50:51 1985 Relay-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site jhunix.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site petsd.UUCP Path: jhunix!aplcen!aplvax!umcp-cs!seismo!lll-crg!qantel!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!joe From: joe@petsd.UUCP (Joe Orost) Newsgroups: net.general,net.rumor Subject: Perkin-Elmer DSG is now CONCURRENT Computer Co. Message-ID: <670@petsd.UUCP> Date: 13 Nov 85 20:50:51 GMT Date-Received: 15 Nov 85 11:03:33 GMT Reply-To: joe@petsd.UUCP (Joseph M. Orost) Followup-To: net.followup Organization: Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls, N.J. Lines: 36 Xref: seismo net.general:4046 net.rumor:1158 <> Concurrent Computer Corporation 15 Main Street Homdel, NJ 07733 (201) 946-8883 November 13, 1985 The purpose of this letter is to introduce you to CONCURRENT Computer Corporation. In the past, you've known us as the Data Systems Group of The Perkin-Elmer Corporation, a leader in the 32-bit superminicomputer field. A company you could depend upon for state-of-the-art technology and unexcelled system reliability... backed up by a worldwide service network of more than 1000 hardware and software support engineers. As Perkin-Elmer, we offered the widest range of compatible systems - from supermicros to the world's fastest and most powerful superminicomputers. Perkin-Elmer, developer of the world's first 32-bit superminicomputer in 1974, is currently at the forefront of parallel processing technology. Now that we have become the CONCURRENT Computer Corporation, you can expect a continuation of this fine tradition. As a "one-business company," we are dedicating ourselves to focusing our resources and efforts toward your present and future computing needs. For additional information about CONCURRENT, please call us directly or contact your local sales office. Sincerely, James K. Sims President And CEO CONCURRENT Computer Corporation ---------------------------------------------------------------------- While we have been busy condemning everybody else for such vile practices as posting shareware, flaming, and non-optimization of mail paths, someone has crept into our midst and posted what is without a doubt the most flagrant violation of netiquette I have seen in my short tenure as a USENETter: a posting of an out-and-out ad to net.general. Well, what shall we do? I have already sent him some interesting reading (I restricted myself from sending as much as I would have like to send, in the name of keeping the associated phone bill below $1000 :-)... ). This is, according to the USENET primer, serious enough to warrant cutting CONCURRENT's news feed. Any comments? Jonathan Kay
bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) (11/19/85)
In article <1212@jhunix.UUCP> you write: >Look what *I* found on net.general: > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >From: joe@petsd.UUCP (Joe Orost) >Subject: Perkin-Elmer DSG is now CONCURRENT Computer Co. >Message-ID: <670@petsd.UUCP> >Date: 13 Nov 85 20:50:51 GMT > > (Copy of letter from company CEO announcing spinoff of Perkin-Elmer > Data Systems as CONCURRENT Computer Corp.) > > Sincerely, > James K. Sims > President And CEO > CONCURRENT Computer Corporation >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >While we have been busy condemning everybody else for such vile practices >as posting shareware, flaming, and non-optimization of mail paths, someone >has crept into our midst and posted what is without a doubt the most >flagrant violation of netiquette I have seen in my short tenure as a >USENETter: a posting of an out-and-out ad to net.general. Well, what >shall we do? I have already sent him some interesting reading (I restricted >myself from sending as much as I would have like to send, in the name of >keeping the associated phone bill below $1000 :-)... ). This is, according >to the USENET primer, serious enough to warrant cutting CONCURRENT's news >feed. Any comments? > > Jonathan Kay The purpose of the posting was NOT!!! a plug, as you so cheerfully :-) imply. The simple fact is that a computer manufacturer has been spun off from their parent company, with a name change, and we thought our customers and associates should know. Postings are regularly seen on this net of sitename changes, companies undergoing merger with other firms or, too often of late, going under, etc., and these seem to be perfectly acceptable fare. We have already had people hanging up phones on us with a 'Sorry, wrong number' when we answer as 'Concurrent'; we thought people on the net might want to know where all these 'Concurrent' postings came from and what happened to all those people who used to be at Perkin-Elmer. Perhaps the letter from the CEO was the wrong thing to post; the fact of the name change WAS. Bob Halloran Sr MTS, CONCURRENT Computer Corp (Formerly Perkin-Elmer DSG) ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {pesnta, topaz, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: I doubt that my employer wants anything to do with my opinions. Quote: "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro..." -- Hunter Thompson
preece@ccvaxa.UUCP (11/20/85)
> ...someone has crept into our midst and posted what is without a doubt > the most flagrant violation of netiquette I have seen in my short > tenure as a USENETter: a posting of an out-and-out ad to net.general. > ...This is, according to the USENET primer, serious enough to warrant > cutting CONCURRENT's news feed. Any comments? /* Written 1:39 pm > Nov 16, 1985 by ins_ajsk@jhunix.UUCP in ccvaxa:net.news.group */ ---------- Perhaps a rose by any other name would smell as sweet, but some of us do like to have words used correctly. That is not (NOT) an ad. It is an announcement. It doesn't ask you to buy anything. It just says they've changed their corporate identity. There are probably a fair number of people on the net who would be interested in hearing of that change. That is a perfectly reasonable use of this net and in particular a perfect reasonable use of net.general, which is specifically chartered to carry items of general interest. Some people are totally without a sense of proportion. -- scott preece gould/csd - urbana ihnp4!uiucdcs!ccvaxa!preece
joel@gould9.UUCP (Joel West) (11/21/85)
While the change of P-E to Concurrent is newsworthy, it could have been done in about 5 lines or less. -- Joel West (619) 457-9681 CACI, Inc. Federal, 3344 N. Torrey Pines Ct., La Jolla, CA 92037 {cbosgd,ihnp4,pyramid,sdcsvax,ucla-cs}!gould9!joel gould9!joel@nosc.ARPA
ins_apmj@jhunix.UUCP (Patrick M Juola) (11/21/85)
In article <1212@jhunix.UUCP> ins_ajsk@jhunix.UUCP (Jonathan Simon Kay) writes: >Look what *I* found on net.general: > >>The purpose of this letter is to introduce you to CONCURRENT Computer >>Corporation. [Massive deletion here; I see no reason to give this ^&#%^ free ads] >>For additional information about CONCURRENT, please call us directly or >>contact your local sales office. >> >> Sincerely, >> James K. Sims >> President And CEO >> CONCURRENT Computer Corporation >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >While we have been busy condemning everybody else for such vile practices >as posting shareware, flaming, and non-optimization of mail paths, someone >has crept into our midst and posted what is without a doubt the most >flagrant violation of netiquette I have seen in my short tenure as a >USENETter: a posting of an out-and-out ad to net.general. Well, what >shall we do? I have already sent him some interesting reading (I restricted >myself from sending as much as I would have like to send, in the name of >keeping the associated phone bill below $1000 :-)... ). This is, according >to the USENET primer, serious enough to warrant cutting CONCURRENT's news >feed. Any comments? > > Jonathan Kay Bravo, Jonathan -- I agree completely (100%) with you. Net.fascists, :-), this would appear to be your puppy, as all I can do is mail this article to CONCURRENT every hour on the hour, which would run up expenses and useless traffic. Pat Juola Johns Hopkins Univ, Dept of Maths
larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) (12/01/85)
> ... > For additional information about CONCURRENT, please call us directly or > contact your local sales office. > > Sincerely, > James K. Sims > President And CEO > CONCURRENT Computer Corporation > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > While we have been busy condemning everybody else for such vile practices > as posting shareware, flaming, and non-optimization of mail paths, someone > has crept into our midst and posted what is without a doubt the most > flagrant violation of netiquette I have seen in my short tenure as a > USENETter: a posting of an out-and-out ad to net.general. Well, what > shall we do? I have already sent him some interesting reading (I restricted > myself from sending as much as I would have like to send, in the name of > keeping the associated phone bill below $1000 :-)... ). This is, according > to the USENET primer, serious enough to warrant cutting CONCURRENT's news > feed. Any comments? > Jonathan Kay Everyone is entitled to at least one error in judgement, especially in the environment of Usenet where people often engage their terminal prior to engaging their brain. :-) So Mr. Sims is proud of his company and a bit overzealous; so what? He is most assuredly now aware of his faux pas, and I am reasonably certain that he or other members of his organization will not post a similar article again. There was no real harm done, since I rather doubt that the above article posting gave Concurrent an unfair competitive edge over other vendors. === Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York === === UUCP {decvax,dual,rocksanne,rocksvax,watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry === === VOICE 716/741-9185 {rice,shell}!baylor!/ === === FAX 716/741-9635 {AT&T 3510D} ihnp4!/ === === === === "Have you hugged your cat today?" ===