dgc@math.ucla.edu (11/21/88)
I suspect you have never raised children or if you have, they weren't "problem" chilren. We were one of the horror stories in Los Angeles. My teen-age son ran up $1500.00 worth of 976 calls before we knew what was happening. He had (and has) serious psychiatric problems. I won't detail them, but they are severe. In general, the law protects children (minors) and parents: 1. It limits liability against parents for damage by chilren to a relatively small amount and you can (and we have) purchase insurance for this (it usually comes with homeowner policies). 2. Contracts entered into by children are, in general, not enforcible. In particular, such contracts can't be enforced against the parents. These laws were set up for DAMNED good reason! Suddenly, the telco in cahoots with the FCC and the PUC invents a way of violating (2), whereby a child enters into a "contract" (by dialing 976 numbers) with the telco and the 976 vendor and then the latter two want to enforce this contract against the parents. As I've said before, 976 service is NOT telephone service any more than ordering from Sears Roebuck, reserving a room at the Holiday Inn, subscribing to the Source (all done using the telphone) are. If someone wants to risk phone orders from an unknown, let him, but he shouldn't have any right to force the telephone subscriber to pay (unless the subscriber agrees in advance). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Illinois Bell wound up writing off several *million* dollars in uncollectibles as a good will gesture for parents who were stuck with phone bills typically in the hundreds of dollars because of their inability to discipline and or control their children. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I very much doubt if it was "good will". These cases have NEVER been taken to court and lawyers to whom I have spoken have questioned whether a court would enforce them. It's quite likely that Illinois Bell and the 976 vendors would have lost in court and that would have left them in a much worse position. The only reason that they have a ghost of a claim to collect on 976 calls is that the PUC "gave" them that right. I have looked at the California statute that set up the California PUC (probably the Illinois statute is similar) and the PUC is given authority to regulate TELEPHONE SERVICE (and various other utilities) NOT information services. By the way, the 976 vendors are sleezy and they deliberately set out to entrap sick, lonely people. My son called the "party line" numbers. What he doesn't know (ar at least believe) is that they are phony. The interesting people he talks to are shills hired by the 976 company to keep the line "exciting". (These jobs are advertised in the Los Angeles Times. They pay a few dollars an hour and can be done from home). So the 976 servce isn't giving what it claims. The "sex" lines are even more sleezy. Thank god for them, however, otherwise the 976 service wouldn't have been put on an optional basis so quickly! The problem is, of course, that telphone service is essential in this day and age. I couldn't hold my job without telephone service at home. You might ask yourself how many children do you know who get blank signed checks from their parents or unlimited charge accounts, etc. You might also ask yourself how you would prevent a mentally sick child who lives at home from using the telphone to call 976 numbers. What would you do. Lock him up (and make him sicker)? Watch him 24 hours a day (and not go to work)? Lock up the telephone (not easy with a teenager who knows how to do simple telephone wiring)? Even though my son is grown now, and away from home, I await your suggestions. We finally managed to buy adequate restrictors and put them in a locked box where the phone-lines first enter my house. Even these have problems. The batteries run out without warning, they are painful to program, and, in general a nuisance. I know that long distance (especially foreign) poses, hypothetically, a similar problem. But for some reason, it doesn't occur, at least not very much. One final thought. Whenever the telco people talk about charges, they talk in terms of paying for services and for what you receive. They charge, for example, for touch-tone, as a service, even though using it saves them money. If there were any consistency or reason, they would CHARGE a monthly fee for having 976 service available. dgc David G. Cantor Department of Mathematics University of California at Los Angeles Internet: dgc@math.ucla.edu UUCP: ...!{randvax, sdcrdcf, ucbvax}!ucla-cs!dgc