11TSTARK%GALLUA.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Timothy Stark) (04/18/89)
[Moderator's Note: Due to some errors in transmission, the message which follows was received somewhat garbled. I have reconstructed it. PT] Hello Telecom Users: Last weekend, at RELAY server, Phantom talked with me about charging for busy signals when using modem. Phantom was hit by a high bill because of busy signals. He told me that: If voice-to-voice, they will not charge busy signals; If modem-to-modem, they will charge busy signals. I get very angry with Phantom's telephone company. At my local company they do not charge me for voice or modem for busy signals. What are the FCC regulations about busy signals? Is charging for busy signal unlawful? I will appreciate any responses. Thanks! -- Tim Stark -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Timothy Stark | Bitnet: 11tstark@gallua.bitnet VMS Gallaudet University | Internet: 11tstark@gallux.gallaudet.edu UNIX P.O. Box 1453 | GEnie: T.STARK1 Washington, DC 20002 | People/Link: OCS130 U.S.A. | QuantumLink: TimS18 Earth | "Gallaudet University is the only university for Solar System | the deaf in the world." Milky Way | The Known Universe | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
rosso@uunet.uu.net (Ross Oliver) (05/03/89)
In article <telecom-v09i0137m03@vector.dallas.tx.us> 11TSTARK%GALLUA.BITNET@ cunyvm.cuny.edu (Timothy Stark) writes: > > Last weekend, at RELAY server, Phantom talked with me about charging >for busy signals when using modem. Phantom was hit by a high bill because >of busy signals. He told me that: If voice-to-voice, they will not charge >busy signals; If modem-to-modem, they will charge busy signals. Since the calling modem is silent until the answering modem sends its pilot tones, how could the phone company know whether a busy signal was an attempted modem or voice connection? Ross Oliver Technical Support The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
tel@cbnewsh.att.com (thomas.e.lowe) (05/08/89)
>> Last weekend, at RELAY server, Phantom talked with me about charging >>for busy signals when using modem. Phantom was hit by a high bill because >>of busy signals. He told me that: If voice-to-voice, they will not charge >>busy signals; If modem-to-modem, they will charge busy signals. >Since the calling modem is silent until the answering modem >sends its pilot tones, how could the phone company know >whether a busy signal was an attempted modem or voice >connection? And even if tones were sent, the phone company would have to be eavesdropping on the line to determine if it is a modem or voice. This sounds like it would be illegal. -- Tom Lowe tel@hound.ATT.COM or att!hound!tel 201-949-0428 AT&T Bell Laboratories, Room 2E-637A Crawfords Corner Road, Holmdel, NJ 07733 (R) UNIX is a registered trademark of AT&T (keep them lawyers happy!!)
klb@lzaz.att.com (K.BLATTER) (05/09/89)
> Phantom talked with me about charging for busy signals when using modem. > He told me that: If voice-to-voice, they will not charge > busy signals; If modem-to-modem, they will charge busy signals. > > Since the calling modem is silent until the answering modem > sends its pilot tones, how could the phone company know > whether a busy signal was an attempted modem or voice > connection? The long distance company can't tell (nor should they care!) whether the call was dialed by a modem or by voice (it's identical). The caller was probably using some low-budget long distance company which charges for calls that aren't completed. Kevin Blatter AT&T - Bell Labs Disclaimer: My employer never told me what it thinks, why should it care what I think?