OLE@csli.stanford.edu (Ole J. Jacobsen) (05/18/89)
Pacific Bell has quite a different idea about what an RJ21X should look like. As the person responsible for our company's phone system, I was recently served with a "Violation Notice" and given two weeks to wire our lines to the 66 block VIA the amphenol connector. The straight "them on one side --- us on the other" with bridging clips in between is NOT ALLOWED here. I was told that if I did not correct the problem, service would be terminated. If you receive service by means of an RJ21X, the phone company wants to have the ability to disconnect all of your lines with one simple yank of the amphenol plug, wonderful. More recently I ordered yet another line (for a credit card verification frob), and the installer wanted to put up a standard network interface box (like the ones they use outside new residences) rather than put the line next to the existing ones. (The RX21X is inside a phone closet in the building). The reason is apparently that you are not supposed to have lines with different "class of service" on the same 66 block. When I explained that we already had a mixture of stuff on the 66 block; 12 CO lines in hunt, 2 fax lines, and 2 modem lines, he agreed to punch the new line down with the rest, mumbling about how the PUC makes them do all these silly things. The guy that goes around snooping in everyone's phone closet to look for this kind of stuff must have a fun job.....maybe I should apply :-) Ole
trebor@uunet.uu.net (Robert J Woodhead) (05/19/89)
In article <telecom-v09i0168m08@vector.dallas.tx.us> OLE@csli.stanford.edu (Ole J. Jacobsen) writes: >The straight "them on one side --- us on the other" with bridging clips in >between is NOT ALLOWED here. Ah yes, the bridging clips. Here in Ithaca, the phone company installers do "them on the left and you on the right", and twice in the last 6 months one of those clips has popped out or shifted just enough to screw up a connection. Plus, would you believe it, for 4 phone lines on an internal phone system plus a modem and fax line, I have a total of 4 of these boxes of various sizes, plus 2 boxes of an older vintage; some installed by the phone company, some by the phone system company. One of these days I'm going to have to spend an afternoon and trace all the damn wires and figure it all out. I mean, at the current rate, if I get another modem line I'll run out of wall space in my utility closet! -- Robert J Woodhead, Biar Games, Inc. !uunet!biar!trebor | trebor@biar.UUCP "The lamb will lie down with the lion, but the lamb won't get much sleep." -- Woody Allen.
john@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (John Higdon) (05/20/89)
In article <telecom-v09i0168m08@vector.dallas.tx.us>, OLE@csli.stanford.edu (Ole J. Jacobsen) writes: > Pacific Bell has quite a different idea about what an RJ21X should > look like. As the person responsible for our company's phone system, It's not Pacific Bell, it's whoever comes out to do the work. There are two types of installers: those that want to get the job done and those that like to play like little Nazis. I have been involved with phone systems ranging from 2 line key systems to multi-site PBXs and there are as many interpretations concerning what the rules say as there are installers in the field. > I was recently served with a "Violation Notice" and given two weeks to > wire our lines to the 66 block VIA the amphenol connector. The > straight "them on one side --- us on the other" with bridging clips in > between is NOT ALLOWED here. I was told that if I did not correct the > problem, service would be terminated. If you receive service by means > of an RJ21X, the phone company wants to have the ability to disconnect > all of your lines with one simple yank of the amphenol plug, wonderful. If any repair person pulled the amphenol off any of my RJs in the process of testing one line, he would be looking for a new job--I guarantee it. > inside a phone closet in the building). The reason is apparently that > you are not supposed to have lines with different "class of service" > on the same 66 block. When I explained that we already had a mixture On one RJ21X block in Pac*Bell land I have the following: 8 Ground Start PBX incoming trunks 4 Ground Start PBX outgoing trunks 3 Sprint Pro-Wats Lines 1 Pac*Bell Metro 800 Line 1 Ground Start DISA access Line 2 Loop Start Modem Lines 1 PBX outgoing OPX No one, but no one has ever given me the slightest comment about this. If anyone ever does, he will be given certain directions concerning impossible anatomical acts he can perform on himself. -- John Higdon | P. O. Box 7648 | +1 408 723 1395 john@zygot.uucp | San Jose, CA 95150 | M o o !