[comp.dcom.telecom] Automatic Conversation Recording Device

crum@usc.edu (Gary L. Crum) (06/22/89)

Hi.  Does anyone know of a phone or accessory that can record all
phone sessions, "automatically" (without explicit action like using a
common tape recorder and suction cup microphone)?  Such a device along
with a computer interface and indexing system would be ideal, but...
I already have an automatic email archive system in place, and it
would be nice to have a similar system for phone communication.

I have heard of phone archive systems used for police lines, but I am
thinking of something small and less reliable and less expensive, for
consumers.

Thanks,
Gary
crum@cse.usc.edu, usc!crum

dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt) (06/23/89)

In article <telecom-v09i0207m03@vector.dallas.tx.us> crum@cse.usc.edu writes:
>
> Hi.  Does anyone know of a phone or accessory that can record all
> phone sessions, "automatically" (without explicit action like using a
> common tape recorder and suction cup microphone)?  Such a device along
> with a computer interface and indexing system would be ideal, but...
> I already have an automatic email archive system in place, and it
> would be nice to have a similar system for phone communication.
>
> I have heard of phone archive systems used for police lines, but I am
> thinking of something small and less reliable and less expensive, for
> consumers.

DAK sells a device called the Phone Tap for about $50.  It plugs into
your phone line and into your tape recorder's "mike" and "remote" jacks.
Whenever the phone goes off-hook, the device closes the "remote" circuit
and feeds the audio into the "mike" circuit.

However... since you're posting from USC, I feel obliged to inform you
that the law places some substantial restrictions on the taping of phone
conversations.  To quote from my local phone book:

"According to Federal and State tariffs your phone calls cannot be
 legally recorded unless you hear short 'beep' tones, consent has been
 gained from all parties to the conversation, or conversation is
 preceeded by verbal notification which is recorded at the beginning (as
 part of the call) by the recording party.  Use of a recorder without an
 audible beep-tone is not permitted except for commercial broadcasting
 when the person being recorded has been informed.

 It is a crime under Federal Law for any person, including a telephone
 subscriber, to wiretap or otherwise intercept a telephone call, unless
 that person has first obtained the consent of one of the parties
 participating in the call.  Under California State Law, the consent of
 all of the parties participating in the call must be obtained before
 a person who is not a party to a call may eavesdrop on or wiretap the
 call."

DAK points out these facts (in briefer form) in their catalog.  The
Phone Tap that they sell does not generate the 'beep' tones required by
the tariffs.  So... if you want to use this device (or any similar one)
and to comply with the rules and with the law, you'll be required to
notify _everyone_ with whom you speak on the phone that the call is
being recorded.  Furthermore, you'll have to be careful to switch off
the device when you, personally, are not using the phone... if the
device records a call to which you are not a party, then you will very
probably have violated both State and Federal laws concerning wiretapping.

My advice is, don't do this.  Remember how much trouble Dick Nixon got
into?

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brent@uunet.uu.net (Brent Chapman) (06/23/89)

Can anyone point me to a source for a device to generate the beeps
required for recording phone calls?

On a related note, are there any good general catalogs for telephone
equipment (both junk for someone's desk and junk to stick in the wiring
closet)?


Thanks!

-Brent
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