[comp.dcom.telecom] Speed Dialing: CO vrs. Premises Equipment

telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (TELECOM Moderator) (07/03/89)

In a conversation with jsol on Sunday, we discussed the merits of speed
dialing. As all TELECOM readers probably know, you can get 'speed dialing'
(sometimes known as convenience dialing) from the telco, as programmed in
the central office switch, or you can purchase a variety of equipment which
maintains the speed dialing repretoire at your own premises.

Which is better, if either? Is it purely a matter of personal taste, or
can you suggest reasons why providing it for yourself might be preferable
to that version sold by the telco and maintained in the CO?

Just wondering. We came to the conclusion it was purely an individual
choice, with no apparent advantages to either; certainly not as long
as the CO version can be programmed with ease from your own phone. Opinions,
anyone?

(And do have a safe and happy Independence Day holiday! Driving, drinking,
firecrackers, all usual admonitions apply.)

Patrick Townson

edg@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Edward Greenberg) (07/04/89)

I use Telco Speed Dialing (8 numbers).  I like it because I don't have
to get expensive feature phones style sets around the house.  Rather,
I can use older more reliable Bell System Style sets (with real
networks. :-)

Basically 8 numbers does it for me.  I had thirty numbers in a
previous life, and found that I was using about ten of them and had
forgotten what the other twenty were used for.  I tried to allocate
them in groups, like 20-30 are for family, 30-40 are her friends,
40-49 are my friends, etc., but it never took.  Since
then, I've learned to live with 8 and saved a buck or two.

Actually, I remember why I needed more.  Way back then, I used several
of them for 950-xxxx.

Now that Grandma is in a home, I expect that I could reprogram #3.
Maybe Dominos Pizza :-) callous youth...  forget the pizza, call your
granny.

eli@eecs.nwu.edu (07/05/89)

My bet is that the speed dialing that the CO provides allows you to
dial calls in more rapid succession than any telephone's repeat dial
features...  this is handy if you are trying to get through to a group
long distance (or other) trunks which are very busy...


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epsilon@ames.arc.nasa.gov (07/06/89)

When I was living in 818, one of my favorite vices was playing
radio station contests.  Nearly all of these calls were to 213 or
714.  Speed-8 wins--especially when used in conjunction with
premises equipment.  (It doesn't make that big a difference, but
it more than pays for itself.)
					-=EPS=-
P.S. the "dead phone for several minutes" syndrome described by
another contributor wasn't that uncommon when 213-520 and 714-977
were taking a serious pounding...

levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) (07/06/89)

I use CO speed dialling for two reasons: (a) I have two extensions at
present, both vanilla.  Speed dialling works from both.  (b) If I had
two phones with speed dialling I would have to be careful to keep the
programming identical in both (required by the nature of the users
around the house).  Of course, the on-premises solution which would
satisfy these is a separate box on the line to do the speed-dialling.
I have never looked into the cost of this option.

Steve Elias mentioned the rapidity.  I hadn't thought of that; but
it's true.  When I speed-dial a number on one of the local ESS
exchanges, the call is placed _instantly_ (e.g., if it is busy, I get
the signal with no delay after keying #).  This is not one of the
reasons I have it, though.

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stanwyc@mtfmi.att.com (D. Stanwyck) (07/06/89)

In article <telecom-v09i0221m07@vector.dallas.tx.us>, telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
(TELECOM Moderator) says:
> In a conversation with jsol on Sunday, we discussed the merits of speed
> dialing. As all TELECOM readers probably know, you can get 'speed dialing'
> (sometimes known as convenience dialing) from the telco, as programmed in
> the central office switch, or you can purchase a variety of equipment which
> maintains the speed dialing repretoire at your own premises.
>
> Which is better, if either? Is it purely a matter of personal taste, or
> can you suggest reasons why providing it for yourself might be preferable
> to that version sold by the telco and maintained in the CO?
>
> Just wondering. We came to the conclusion it was purely an individual
> choice, with no apparent advantages to either; certainly not as long
> as the CO version can be programmed with ease from your own phone. Opinions,
> anyone?

The reason why (at my last residence) we chose to use the
USWest supplied CO-based speed calling feature was the presence
of several (>5) separate telephones in the house.  Some telephones
had memories - 1 lost memory everytime there was a commercial
power flux.  Some did not have memories.  Some were pulse only,
others were tone-dial.  The only solution that allowed the user
to use a short-dial sequence from any phone in the house was to use
the CO-based solution.  The alternative was several new phones, and
economically that didn't seem workable.

Also - the one telephone that couldn't be replaced was a combination
phone/speakerphone/AM-FM radio/alarm clock/desk lamp that my wife
kept on her nightstand.  It was also the one that lost memory everytime
the commercial power blinked.  Since it was too much trouble to re-enter
the numbers several times a week, we choose the above solution.
--
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dileo@brl.mil (07/06/89)

Pat--

In article <telecom-v09i0221m07@vector.dallas.tx.us> you write:
>
>In a conversation with jsol on Sunday, we discussed the merits of speed
>dialing.
>
>Which is better, if either? Is it purely a matter of personal taste, or
>can you suggest reasons why providing it for yourself might be preferable
>to that version sold by the telco and maintained in the CO?
>

   My response to this question is that the personally owned equipment beats
the CO maintained system far and away on price and convenience.

   In Maryland (C&P country), the charge for 8 number speed calling is $1.50
per month and $4.00 per month for a 30 number list. Approximately 30 months
ago, I purchased a 40 number memory feature phone for $80.00 (LCD Display,
speaker, hold, redial, etc.). Thus, on speed dialing alone, I've already
saved $40.00.

   The convenience aspect comes into play when it's time to dial one of these
numbers. My phone has 20 buttons and a shift button, so no number requires
more than two keystrokes to dial. To dial from a regular Touch-Tone phone to
a CO maintained list requires that you 1)Remember a CODE for the number you
want to dial and 2)Press a three key sequence (two if you don't press '#' and
are willing to wait..).

   Oh yeah, programming the feature phone is easier, too.

   Just in case you're wondering, I did have the CO maintained speed calling
way back when. I just decided, for the reasons outlined above that it was
more worthwhile to buy a feature phone (my decision was aided by the
premature death of my standard desk phone at the hands of my cat).

                                                    --John DiLeo-Lopez
                                                      dileo@amsaa-seer.brl.mil

julian@bongo.uucp (julian macassey) (07/10/89)

In article <telecom-v09i0225m06@vector.dallas.tx.us>, stanwyc@mtfmi.att.com
(D. Stanwyck) writes:
> In article <telecom-v09i0221m07@vector.dallas.tx.us>, telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
> (TELECOM Moderator) says:
>
> The reason why (at my last residence) we chose to use the
> USWest supplied CO-based speed calling feature was the presence
> of several (>5) separate telephones in the house.  Some telephones
> had memories - 1 lost memory everytime there was a commercial
> power flux.  Some did not have memories.  Some were pulse only,
> others were tone-dial.  The only solution that allowed the user
> to use a short-dial sequence from any phone in the house was to use
> the CO-based solution.  The alternative was several new phones, and
> economically that didn't seem workable.

    Did you consider the Demon Dialer by Zoom Telephonics?  If you put one
of their diallers by the protector, every phone in the house can use the
same dialler which is controlled by the Touch Tone pad or Hook Switch
flashes. Plus it comes with a supercap that keeps the memory alive for 7
hours if there is a power outage. Not only can any phone in the house dial
via a short sequence, you can store numbers that are dialled via built in
account codes i.e. selected common carriers or phone credit card numbers
that can be accessed during a call. Plus it will "Demon Dial", redial a busy
number. Great for calling houses with teenagers. And yes, you can store over
100 numbers in a Demon Dialer.

Yours


--
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GREEN@wharton.upenn.edu (Scott D. Green) (07/10/89)

The DEMON DIALER not only gives you access to the same codes from every
phone in the house, but also adds features like continuous auto redial for
busies and no answers.  I think its about $100, but I don't know from
where.  (Radio Schlock used to carry it).

-scott