[comp.dcom.telecom] Response to US Sprint Comments

eli@chipcom.com (08/09/89)

[comments here are from me, not my Sprint Rep Buddy]

> From: David Albert <albert%endor@husc6.harvard.edu>
>
> In article <telecom-v09i0278m04@vector.dallas.tx.us> eli@chipcom.com writes:
>
> > .. "The shutdown was not for all of Port Authority / Grand Central, it
> >   was just for a few payphones that were causing the trouble.  John Doe
> >   is probably better off being prohibited from using the phone than if
> >   he did use the phone and someone watched over his shoulder, stole his
> >   FONcard number, and racked up thousands of calls on his bill."
>
> I fail to understand why your friend would say something as patently
> ridiculous as this and expect anybody to accept it.

	What's wrong with the truth?  If it's too ridiculous for you,
	I don't know what to suggest.  If you want lies, you're talking
	to the wrong people.  Neither my friend nor myself have any
	reason to lie or make "patently ridiculous" comments.

> Since John Doe
> is not responsible for those calls, the only reason he is "better off"
> is that he saves a few moments of aggravation.

	Such problems lead to more than a few moments of phone time
	with US Sprint customer service reps.  Though they have
	been fairly responsive to my latest complaints.  I usually
	use the normal reps rather than my friend there, just so I
	can keep track of how well they are doing.

> Or is the Sprint
> spokesman suggesting that John Doe will have a serious problem getting
> the calls removed from his bill, presumably because of Sprint's
> notorious billing inefficiencies and other problems?

	John Doe's card will be disabled everywhere and he will be
	left with no long distance access at all for a few days.
	This has nothing to do with "notorious billing".  It is a
	direct result of having one's PIN ripped off.

> Either way, the comments don't bode well for Sprint.

	I think they bode just fine.  The realities of code abuse
	can interfere with your long distance service, regardless
	of your long distance carrier.

> David Albert /UUCP: ...!harvard!albert / INTERNET: albert@harvard.harvard.edu

> From: Andrew Boardman <amb@cs.columbia.edu>
> In article <telecom-v09i0278m04@vector.dallas.tx.us> eli@chipcom.com quoth:
> > .. "The shutdown was not for all of Port Authority / Grand Central, it
> >   was just for a few payphones that were causing the trouble.  John Doe
> >   is probably better off being prohibited from using the phone than if
> >   he did use the phone and someone watched over his shoulder, stole his
> >   FONcard number, and racked up thousands of calls on his bill."

> Considering that said phones are not *labelled* as such, Mr. Doe would
> probably try his call, have his Sprint account ripped off anyway, and
> then go through the further inconvienience of having to retry the call
> somewhere else...

	You are assuming that the sprint system would provide Mr. Doe
	with the normal PIN entry sequence.  I don't know exactly how
	the 'disabling' was carried out, but your assumption that Mr. Doe
	would get to the point where he would enter his PIN is not
	necessarily correct.  The idea is to prevent the John Doe from
	ever entering his PIN, so it won't get stolen!

	To allow Doe to enter his PIN and then to refuse his call
	provides no benefit to either US Sprint or Mr. Doe, so my guess
	is that some other method was used to prevent Doe from entering
	his FONcard PIN.

	The subject of a few Grand Central payphones and their Sprint access
	been beaten around enough...  I'm quite happy to pass on additional
	questions to Mr. Sprint Rep, but this issue is a relatively minor
	one, in my opinion.  Enough!