[comp.dcom.telecom] National Views of Access Codes

msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) (07/26/89)

Several people have mentioned points related to this lately, but I'm
going to begin by restating for overseas readers some things that are
well known to most people reading this.  In most of North America, to
make a basic long distance call, one dials a digit-sequence formed by
concatenating

		(a) an access code,
		(b) an area code [usually], and
		(c) the number called.

The access code is 1 in most places but there have been, and may still be,
some places where it is 112 and some places where no access code is needed.
Because of this, and now because of the appearance of 0 as a second access
code denoting customer-dialed, operator-assisted calls, it is clear that
North Americans do not consider the access code as part of the number.
(At least, those who are careful about such things don't.  Advertisements
usually say things like "dial 1-416-393-4636", so the general public may
have other ideas.  But tables of phone numbers, as in hotel directories, are
normally written without the access code.)

People dialing to North America from elsewhere, on the other hand, dial a
number consisting of some prefix dependent on their own phone system but
usually ending in the North American "country code" of 1, followed directly
by parts (b) and (c) of what we dial.  From England, for instance, the above
number would be dialed as 010-1-416-393-4636.  Here the -1- is the country
code for North America and it is only a coincidence that it is the same as
the access code most commonly used from here.


On the other hand, in many other countries, the digit-sequence that one
dials to make a basic long-distance call is formed by concatenating

		(a) a city or area code, and
		(b) a number.

But the city or area codes always begin with the same digit, most often 0,
and this digit is *omitted* when dialing into the country from elsewhere.
For instance, the number dialed in England as 01-222-1234 would be dialed
from here as 011-44-1-222-1234.  Here the 011- is an access code for
calls outside North America, -44- is the country code, and -1- is the
city code which corresponds to the 01- in the British number.

 From a Briton's point of view, what we dial is 011-44- followed by all but
the first digit of their area code and phone number.  From a North American's
point of view, what they call the first digit of their area code isn't really
part of it at all but is an access code.  Personally I think the North
American view is superior, but it's not an important point except if it
causes misunderstandings.


And now finally to my questions.

1. Are there any other countries that take what I have called the "North
   American" point of view above?  *All* the countries that I've been to
   outside North America use the other system.

2. Are there any other countries that allow customer-dialed, operator-
   assisted calls?  If so, how are they dialed?

3. Are there any countries outside North America that use 1 as an access
   code (interpreting the numbers in North American style)?  So far all
   the ones we've heard about use 0, except for Finland which uses 9.

4. Is there any correlation between unusual access codes and unusual dials?
   I remember that where the standard dial has 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0, there
   are two nonstandard dials that have 0-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 and 9-8-7-6-5-
   4-3-2-1-0, but I don't remember which are the few countries that use
   them, except for New Zealand which uses the latter one.  Could Finland
   be one of these?  -- I know that New Zealand uses an access code of 0.
   On the other hand, their emergency number is 111, which is dialed the
   same as the British 999!


--
Mark Brader		    "'A matter of opinion'[?]  I have to say you are
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto	      right.  There['s] your opinion, which is wrong,
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com      and mine, which is right."  -- Gene Ward Smith

wtho@uunet.uu.net (Tom Hofmann) (07/31/89)

 From article <telecom-v09i0261m01@vector.dallas.tx.us>, by msb@sq.sq.com
(Mark Brader):
| 1. Are there any other countries that take what I have called the "North
|    American" point of view above?  *All* the countries that I've been to
|    outside North America use the other system.

| 2. Are there any other countries that allow customer-dialed, operator-
|    assisted calls?  If so, how are they dialed?

| 3. Are there any countries outside North America that use 1 as an access
|    code (interpreting the numbers in North American style)?  So far all
|    the ones we've heard about use 0, except for Finland which uses 9.

| 4. Is there any correlation between unusual access codes and unusual dials?
|    I remember that where the standard dial has 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0, there
|    are two nonstandard dials that have 0-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 and 9-8-7-6-5-
|    4-3-2-1-0, but I don't remember which are the few countries that use
|    them, except for New Zealand which uses the latter one.  Could Finland
|    be one of these?  -- I know that New Zealand uses an access code of 0.
|    On the other hand, their emergency number is 111, which is dialed the
|    same as the British 999!

1. France is an example---they have only two area codes, however:
   "1" for Paris and "" (none) for the rest of the country. French
   telephone numbers are always written without the access code "16".

4. I have seen 9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-0 in Norway (among "normal" ones) and
   0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 in Sweden (both more than 10 years ago).

Tom Hofmann             wtho@cgch.UUCP

msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) (08/18/89)

A few weeks ago I asked four questions.  There were some posted articles
and I also received some email.  I summarize:

1. France seems to be the only country outside North America where what
   we call the access code is not considered part of the phone number.
2. There seems to be no country outside North America that allows customer-
   dialed, operator-assisted long distance calls.
3. There seems to be no country outside North America that uses 1 as an
   access code; France uses 16.
4. There's no correlation between unusual dials and unusual access codes.

Thanks to those who responded.

--
Mark Brader			"...out of the dark coffee-stained mugs of
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto	         insane programmers throughout the world..."
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com				-- Lee R. Quin

wtho@uunet.uu.net (Tom Hofmann) (08/24/89)

 From article <telecom-v09i0309m07@vector.dallas.tx.us>, by msb@sq.sq.com
(Mark Brader):
> 1. France seems to be the only country outside North America where what
>    we call the access code is not considered part of the phone number.
> 3. There seems to be no country outside North America that uses 1 as an
>    access code; France uses 16.

The fact that the access code is not part of the phone number is a rather
new feature in the U.S.A.  It became established when 1+ dialling was
introduced.  One reason why the leading 1 is not considered part of
the phone number might be that 1+ dialling was introduced gradually.

But direct distance dialling was already available before 1+ dialling,
and there was (and still is) an access code (strictly speaking two access
codes) for long distance calls: the second digit of the area code (this
digit is either 1 or 0).  And this access code was and is considered part
of the phone number.  The only difference to other countries' system is
that the access code is/are not the first digits of the number.

Tom Hofmann	wtho@cgch.UUCP