[comp.dcom.telecom] German Enclave in Switzerland

cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) (09/11/89)

Forwarded to telecom with permission of Charles Buckley <ceb@csli.stanford.edu>

I wrote:
   Aug. 20, 1989 Baltimore (Maryland, U.S.A.) Sun, page 2A has an article...
   [regarding the enclave]

   Buesingen is the enclave, just outside the Swiss canton of Schaffhausen, and
   about a mile from the main part of West Germany.  In PRACTICE (except for
   such things as phones and license plates), the enclave is Swiss.  But the
   pay phones take German coins only, and calls to Schaffhausen are 9 digits
   and cost 8 times as much as "domestic" calls.

And he replied:
Well, that's not really accurate - they do have German post offices
too, and can use the substantially lower German postal rates.  Just
last year, or was it two years ago, they got a Swiss Post office as
well (8932? not sure any more), so they only pay national rates to
send letters to the people they do business with mainly.  An
adjustment on the phone system is not far from coming, I'm sure, since
a wave of liberalization is sweeping the PTT at the moment.

I wrote:
   ... what does PTT stand for?

And he replied (responding to my query about PTT at the end):
First, it's just my opinion, based on several years of watching Swiss
PTT politics concerning regulation, allowing of third party equipment
installed on subscriber lines, relations with neighboring countries,
etc.

Second, calls from CH *into* Buesingen (sp?) are taxed as national
calls, even from as far way as Zuerich - there's a special area code.
This is true for all border regions.

Third, it's normal that calls to nearby towns within Germany are nine
digits.  If you live in a pop. 2000 village, you most likely have a
4-digit area code and a 4-digit number.  To call the neighboring one
only right down the road, which, if its in a separate "Kreis"
(county?), likely has its own 4-digit area code, you would dial
0+<area code>+<phone number> which is 9 digits.  9 digits is also the
norm in CH, but there are fewer area codes (max 2 digits), so it's not
so often a problem.

Schaffhausen, being Swiss, has 5 or usually 6-digit numbers, so if you
say it takes 9 digits to call SH, I would imagine that there's a
special 2-digit area code for it on the German numbering scheme.
Given the size of SH, that would be a pretty special concession
already, since the shortest area codes in Germany are two digits, and
these are only for the big cities (viz. Berlin 30, Munich 89).
Otherwise, it's 11 or 12 digits going via the international protocol
(004153+number).

Fourth, it is also normal, even within Switzerland, to have the
suburban rate be much higher than the city rate.  I lived 400m from
the Zuerich town border, and yet my phone bills (mostly for modem
calls) to ZH were about 10 times higher than my colleagues who lived
in ZH proper (same area code, too).  My boss was nice enough to
reimburse me, though.

So, while I do believe that an adjustment will be coming, I think it
will probably be to install Swiss phone boxes, and leave them on the
German switch (the new electronic boxes (made by Hasler, I think)
accept multiple monies w/no special hardware, and are made for use in
many different countries.  They already have some at the French train
station in Basel).  I think that this will solve the most irritating
problem, that you can't use the same money for the coin box that you
do for beer, or that works in the coin box down the street.  Perhaps
cross-border calls will get knocked down a rate classification or so
as well, but I am not so certain of this.

It would be, of course, be perfectly in the German character to insist to
wait until they could manufacture their own Multi-Munz box (by Siemens
or AEG, perhaps). :-}

By the way, I believe I got the post code for Buesingen wrong.  I did
not bring any Swiss telephone book with me.  However, the opening of
the Swiss post office on "German sovereign territory" made the papers
all over the country.

Finally, "PTT" (I thought everyone knew this), is a quite European
concept - it means Post, Telephon und Telegraf in Swiss-German, with
the expected variation as you change the language.  The idea is that
of a single government monopoly agency which offers all these
services, and usually banking as well (it's nice - you can always
telephone at the post office for essentially local rates and pay money
afterward - pay any bill, and cash a check, too.  The clerks always
know how to speak the local language - American post offices compare
poorly :}.  In Germany its called the Bundespost, or Post for short
(but they stil do telephones, too).  PTT is understood most
everywhere, though.