jpr@rutgers.edu (Jean-Pierre Radley) (10/18/89)
Sorry, I know this be an old topic. Am I correct that *70 is not the universal method to override call waiting, that different telcos have other codes or methods? Jean-Pierre Radley jpr@jpradley.uucp New York, NY 72160.1341@compuserve.com [Moderator's Note: You are correct. Some use 70#; most allow use of 1170 for rotary dial phones, and sometimes 1170 will work from touchtone lines as well. Some CO's using older generics don't even have this option. An example is Morton Grove, IL; about the only place in the Chicago area without this capability. David Tamkin, is that correct? PT]
gcw20877@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (George Wang) (10/21/89)
>[Moderator's Note: You are correct. Some use 70#; most allow use of 1170 >for rotary dial phones, and sometimes 1170 will work from touchtone lines >as well. Some CO's using older generics don't even have this option. An >example is Morton Grove, IL; about the only place in the Chicago area >without this capability. David Tamkin, is that correct? PT] Well, I'm not Dave, but I do know from first hand experience that Morton Grove's switching station does NOT allow call waiting override with *70.... Although I live in Skokie, Skokie is spilt into service by Skokie's switching station and Morton Grove's switching station... Unfortunately, we got stuck with Morton Grove's switching station and using the modem with call waiting is a real pain!! Disconnects galore!! BTW, does anyone know why Morton Grove doesn't have this ability?? Does it have to do with the station's switching technology?? Is there anything we can do as telephone service customers? A petition? Hmmmm...... George Wang University of Illinois gcw20877@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
dattier@jolnet.orpk.il.us (David W. Tamkin) (10/22/89)
In volume 9, issue 463, Jean-Pierre Radley asks: | Sorry, I know this be an old topic. Am I correct that *70 is not the | universal method to override call waiting, that different telcos have | other codes or methods? and Patrick Townson replies: | [Moderator's Note: You are correct. Some use 70#; most allow use of 1170 | for rotary dial phones, and sometimes 1170 will work from touchtone lines | as well. Some CO's using older generics don't even have this option. An | example is Morton Grove, IL; about the only place in the Chicago area | without this capability. David Tamkin, is that correct? PT] Patrick asked me because I live in the same city as he but have a different local telco with a few differences in the way custom calling features are implemented. For example, where he lives Illinois Bell has call waiting superseding hunt-from. A second call into a hunt-from line with call waiting will give the call waiting beep instead of hunting; if call waiting has been overridden, however, it will hunt. But where I live, Centel has hunt-from superseding call waiting, and call waiting is useless on any line in a rotary except the last one. I'm not sure that overriding call waiting is still unavailable in Morton Grove. Anyhow, here is the way the codes work from Centel phones in northeastern Illinois (except from Des Plaines prefixes 298 and 82[VAnderbilt]7, on which custom calling and equal access are not yet available: customers wishing equal access or custom calling features must get a new phone number): x below is just what you expect: 0 to suspend call waiting, 2 to establish call forwarding, 3 to terminate call forwarding, 4 to program Speed Call 8 [Centel prefers the terms "Speed Call" and "Touch Call" to those used by BOC's], 5 to program Speed Call 30; n is a digit from 2 through 5: 7x <pause> works, tone or pulse 117x works, tone or pulse, but 1170 sits and thinks for several seconds first Tone only: 7x# works, even for 70# *7n works, but *70 returns fast busy (!) #70 suspends call waiting; otherwise #7n returns fast busy It seems that *70 was misprogrammed by Centel as #70. One thing I have noticed with call forwarding here is that you can pull it off without getting charged for the set-up call. If you dial 72# (or *72, or 1172, or whatever) and the number to forward to and get no answer (because you hung up before the party COULD answer, with luck before they heard ringing) and then do it a second time, then on the second try Centel does not connect you; it simply gives confirming beeps and a fresh dialtone, and call forwarding functions. Sometime in the last month they reprogrammed call forwarding to work when the forwarding line is busy with an outgong call, even if it doesn't have call waiting or if call waiting is suspended, and for 72# and its variants to return fast busy if call forwarding is already in effect (you have to cancel the previous forwarding number with 73# first). David W. Tamkin dattier@jolnet.orpk.il.us {attctc,netsys}!jolnet!dattier P. O. Box 813 Rosemont, Illinois 60018-0813 (708) 518-6769 (312) 693-0591 BIX: dattier GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN CIS: 73720,1570 The opinions above are mine. [Moderator's Note: I think the reason the use of '1170' causes the network to sit and wait for more input is because of the various 7x codes, 70 is the only one which could conceivably be an area code. 71 isn't used. Telco figures some people hit the '1' twice by accident, intending to dial 1-70x-yyy-zzzz. So on 1170 it waits to see what else you have in mind. PT]