TELECOM Moderator <telecom@eecs.nwu.edu> (12/30/89)
TELECOM Digest Sat, 30 Dec 89 09:15:25 CST Special: BBS in Estonia
Today's Topics: Moderator: Patrick Townson
On-line With BBS in Soviet Union (Dave Hughes via D. Dodell & F. Linton)
On-line With BBS in Soviet Union (Andrei Kolesnikov, calling from Moscow)
[Moderator's Note: Fred E. J. Linton and David Dodell both sent copies
of the online session by Dave Hughes with the BBS in Estonia. Other
than slight differences in editing, the copies were identical. I've
tried to eliminate any editing in the text presented here, but some
technical problems required a couple of minor changes, such as the
indentation of the word 'From' when it appeared, and the removal of
some dash marks. The second text is from our Soviet correspondent to
the Digest, Andrei Kolesnikov. I hope you enjoy reading this as much
as I did, and Happy New Year to all! PT]
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Date: Wed, 27 Dec 89 12:48:58 mst
From: David Dodell <ddodell@stjhmc.fidonet.org>
Subject: BBS in Estonia
I found this posting in alt.bbs ... didn't know if you wanted to repost it to
the group:
From: dave@oldcolo.UUCP (Dave Hughes)
Date: 25 Dec 89 07:46:14 GMT
Organization: Old Colorado City Communications, Colorado Springs, CO
Message-ID: <236@oldcolo.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.misc
I have managed to log on tonight, Christmas Eve, to the 1st BBS inside
the USSR. Its in Tallinn, Estonia. Phone number Country Code +7, City
Code 0142, Number 422 583. You can't dial that direct from the US. I
had to use the technique I use to call my son's modem in China - using
a voice phone branched off the modem, going through two operators. Got
it at 1200 baud, 7S1, Bell212.
Below is most of that 30 minute first session. The software resembles
a public domain US package. The Finns from Helsinki helped set it up.
[Hughes note: I edited out redundant menus and some line noise.]
[Moderator's Note: And I had to remove some dashes on a few lines. PT]
atd
CONNECT
CONNECT 1200 / 12-25-89 (03:12)
Eesti BBS # 1
PCBoard (R) - Version 14.1/D
Do you want graphics (Enter)=no?
** EESTI BBS # 1 **
Welcome to Tallinn !
Tere tulemast Tallinnasse !
What is your first name? dave
What is your last name? hughes
DAVE HUGHES not found in USER's file.
(R) to re-enter your name or (C) to continue logon as a new user? C
New Users see this File
Would you like to register with us (Enter)=yes?
(------------)
Password (One word please!)? ...
(------------)
Re-enter password to verify? ...
(------------------------)
City and State calling from? Colorado Springs, Colo
(-------------)
Business or data phone # is? 7196324111
(-------------)
Home or voice phone # is? 7196362040
(------------------------------)
Brand of CPU you are using? Toshiba Laptop MSDOS
Please wait - Adding name to Quick Index File ...
Registration Information Saved .
***** Eesti BBS # 1 *****
15/12/89
Conferences added, preferably use ProDoor to read & enter messages.
Command: OPEN 1 or DOOR 1.
*************************************
14/12/89
Tere tulemast Tallinna seltskonda.
We established BBS system just today. We are newcommers into the
Bulletin world.
We have a lot to learn, please be patient with us.Keep in touch.
Our number is +7 0142 422 583.
Scan Message Base Since 'Last Read' (Enter)=yes?
(Ctrl-K) or (Ctrl-X) Aborts, (Ctrl-S) Suspends.
Scanning Main (0) .....
Msgs For You: None
Msgs From You: None
# Msgs Found: 58
Press (Enter) to continue?
(----------1---------2---------3---------)
(M123456789012345678901234567890123456789)
MBase Areas: XXXXXX
MBase Scans: XXXXXX
Caller Num.: 270
Lst Date On: 12-25-89
Expire Date: None
# Times On : 1
Page Length: 23
Expert Mode: Off
Security Lv: 20
# Downloads: 0
# Uploads : 0
Bytes Avail: 1024000
L/Msg. Read: 0
High Msg. #: 90
Active Msgs: 89
Tr/Protocol: None
Press (Enter) to continue?
============================[ Main Menu ]=================================
A)bandon Conference H)elp Functions O)perator Page T)rans. Protocol
B)ulletin Listings I)nitial Welcome OPEN a DOOR TS)Txt Srch Msgs
CHAT between NODEs J)oin a Conference P)age Length Set U)pload a File
C)omment to SYSOP K)ill a message Q)uick Msg Scan V)iew Settings
D)ownload a File L)ocate Files(name) R)ead Messages W)rite User Info
E)nter a Message M)ode (Graphics) REPLY to Msg(s) X)pert On/Off
F)ile Directories N)ew Files(date) RM)Re-Read Mem # Y)our Per. Mail
G)oodbye (Hang up) NEWS file display S)cript Question Z)ippy DIR Scan
(28 min. left) Main Board Command? j
=======================[ Conference Listings ]===============================
# Description
1 - EestiSuomi - Discussions in Estonian, Finnish, English
2 - Internat - Discussions in English only, the international ones
3 - IBMPC- The hardware and sofware matters in any languages
4 - Othercomp - The stories about the other computers
5 - Telecom - The messages for Estonian companies
6 - Private - This is for the private mail only
7 - UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, PLEASE DON'T DISTURB
Conference # to join (Enter)=none? 1
EestiSuo (1) Conference Joined
Scan Message Base Since 'Last Read' (Enter)=yes? ~r
(Ctrl-K) or (Ctrl-X) Aborts, (Ctrl-S) Suspends.
Scanning EestiSuo (1) .
Msgs For You: None
Msgs From You: None
# Msgs Found: 9
(13 min. left) EestiSuo (1) Conference Command? r
(H)elp, (1-9), Message Read Command? 1-9
Date: 12-17-89 (00:41) Number: 1
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: TIMO AUKIA Read: HAS REPLIES
Subj: HYV[[ JOULUA Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
No kun kerran alueen nimi on Eesti/Suomi, niin kirjoitellaan
suomeksi.
Toivottavasti edes joku ymm{rt{{. On hienoa, ett{ Viron asiat ovat
alkaneet menn{ parempaan suuntaan. Toivottavasti Suomen pys{htynyt
hallitus {ly{{ my|s nousta Stalinismin sulkeutuneisuudesta. Eik{ t{ss{
sitten mit{{n muuta asiaa olekaan, kuin Hyv{{ Joulua kaikille
Virolaisille.
(H)elp, (1-9), Message Read Command? 2
Date: 12-17-89 (04:55) Number: 2
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: SAMI ROPPONEN Read: (N/A)
Subj: KUVARUUTUEDITORI Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Onneksi tll saa puhua suomea.
Kertokaa, miten saa kuvaruutueditorin (fullscreeneditor) plle?
(H)elp, End of Message Command? h
(End of Message) Command - Function Help
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Commands Available to All:
(Enter) contines on with message read function
(N) stop reading messages
(NS) continue reading messages in non-stop format
(T) thread read (forward) (or T+)
(T-) thread read (backwards)
(#) a specific message number between 1 and 9999999
(+) or (-) added to the end of a (#) forces either a
forward or reverse read respectively.
(+) alone reads messages forward from present position
(-) alone reads messages backwards from present position
(RE) enter a reply to the message just read
(M) memorize that message number for later return
(RM) return to a previously "memorized" message number
(TS) begin a text search of message header information
(NEXT) reads next higher message number available
(PREV) reads next lower message number available
(K) kill the message
(E) edit the "To:" and "Subj:" of the message header
and 'Echo' flag if applicable
Additional Commands Available for Sysops ONLY!
(P) "protect" the message (make it "private")
(U) "unprotect" the message (make it "public")
(F) find caller's USERS file record and display
(MOVE) Move the message to another conference
Comments: If you do not have a security level necessary to perform the
Sysop functions above, do NOT attempt to enter those commands
as excessive attempts to do so may lock you out of this system!
Commands can be stacked together at this prompt if desired.
(11 min. left) EestiSuo (1) Conference Command? r
(H)elp, (1-9), Message Read Command? 7
Date: 12-23-89 (00:09) Number: 7
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: GILES TODD Read: (N/A)
Subj: HELLO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Hi. Congratulations {on your BBS.
Giles (phoning from the UK).
(11 min. left) EestiSuo (1) Conference Command? e
(-------------------------)
To (Enter)=`ALL'?
Subject (Enter)=abort? MERRY XMAS FROM USA
Message Security (H)=help?
Enter your text. (Enter) alone to end. (72 chars/line, 25 lines maximum)
(------------------------------------------------------------------------)
1: MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU IN ESTONIA, AND
2: THE REST OF THE USSR, AND YOUR FINLAND FRIENDS FROM ALL OF US
3: COWBOYS IN COLORADO IN THE UNITED STATES.
4: I have left a message in the International Section, xDbut there
5: is a little English here too!
6: And Congratulations on the fine BBS - as I understand it the
7: first in the USSR!
8: I am a veteran American 'onliner', running a series of systems
9: myssel fromthe Old Colorado City District of
10: Colorado Springs Colorado, 11: USA, at the foot of 14,000 foot Pikes Peak
mountain in the Rocky Mountains.
13: I will call back and *really* exercise your system, and if you
14: do not mind, even critique, from one who spends 4 hours a day
15: online,. and have operated from one-line BBSs in 1981 to my
16: current multi-user Unix 386 system with global
17: Usenet, for general use, education, politics, business, and
18: {_culture. My system number in the USA is Area Code 719 and
19: number 632-4111 at 1200 baud, 8N1. And my global usenet
20: address is dave@oldcolo.uucp.
21: I have exhanged many messages via Tokyo,
CAUTION: Auto-Disconnect in (3) min.!
and US with Sergei Alexandrov in Moscow at Novosti.
22 And with one of my sons in China - by direct conenct dial.
Two lines left before message is full!
24: So once again from a veteran who has seen
25: em all. Terrific start. Global networking, here we come!
Text Entry is Full ...
(A)bort, (C)ontinue, (D)elete, (E)dit, (H)elp, (I)nsert, (L)ist, (S)ave
Text Entry Command? s
Saving Message # 10 ...........
(2 min. left) EestiSuo (1) Conference Command? f
====================[ Main Board File Directory ]=============================
1 - PCBoard Software Text Files
(H)elp, (1-2), File List Command? 1
************* Directory 1 - PCBoard Bulletin Board Software ***************
PCB12DOC.ARC 5506 10-01-87 PCBoard Ver. 12.0 Changes Documentation
(H)elp, (1-2), File List Command?
(1 min. left) EestiSuo (1) Conference Command? g
{_
Minutes Used: 29
NO CARRIER
Also, the following message was the only one - composed today,
Christmas Eve, in the International Section. To which I replied
warmly, with also greetings to Mikael and Raisa Gorbechev.
Date: 12-24-89 (15:04) Number: 1
To: ALL Refer#: NONE
From: JUSSI ROKKA Read: (N/A)
Subj: HELLO Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
HELLO!
Is anybody here?
Christmas wishes to all...
Jussi
==================================
(End of Online Session)
Dave Hughes Old Colorado City Communications
"It is better to light one screen than cursor the darkness"
hplabs!hp-lsd!oldcolo!dave
(End of Forwarded Message from David Dodell)
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Date: Thu, 28 Dec 89 05:41:15 -0800
From: sfmtmoscow@cdp.uucp
Subject: Re: Calling the BBS in Tallinn, Estonia
Thanks Patrick!
It will be great if you can give me some basic info about telecom
conference. I finally got Estonia BBS from my home. I have
Tosh1100/int.modem 1200bps home and MAC in the office. We use
USRobotrics Courier 2400e with MNP inside Soviet Union. Or any 300bps
modems (CCITT). BBS in Tallinn: 300-1200bps CCITT, E, 7, 1. part of
the session:
==========BEGIN===========
ATDP8,,0142422583
CONNECT
CONNECT 300 / 12-29-89 (01:01)
Eesti BBS # 1
PCBoard (R) - Version 14.1/D
Do you want graphics (Enter)=no?
7-E-1 Operation in Effect.
CONNECT 300 / 12-29-89 (01:01)
Eesti BBS # 1
PCBoard (R) - Version 14.1/D
** EESTI BBS # 1 **
Welcome to Tallinn !
Tere tulemast Tallinnasse !
What is your first name? andrei
What is your last name? kolesnikov
Password (Dots will echo)? ...
Scan Message Base Since 'Last Read' (Enter)=yes?
(Ctrl-K) or (Ctrl-X) Aborts, (Ctrl-S) Suspends.
Scanning Main (0) ......
Msgs For You: None
Msgs From You: 115 116
# Msgs Found: 73
Press (Enter) to continue?
(29 min. left) Main Board Command? e
(-------------------------)
To (Enter)=`ALL'?
Subject (Enter)=abort? more bbs?
Message Security (H)=help?
Enter your text. (Enter) alone to end. (72 chars/line, 25 lines maximum)
(------------------------------------------------------------------------)
1:
21:
(A)bort, (C)ontinue, (D)elete, (E)dit, (H)elp, (I)nsert, (L)ist, (S)ave
Text Entry Command? s
Saving Message # 117 ........
============================[ Main Menu ]=================================
...
(27 min. left) Main Board Command? g
Minutes Used: 3
[Moderator's Note: some of session online not available. PT]
(10 min. left ) Main Board Command? r
Scanning Main (0) . . . . .
Date: 12-28-89 (02:51) Number: 105
To: ANDREI Refer#: 104
FROM: LEMBIT PIRN Read: NO
Subj: Tallinn Status: RECEIVER ONLY
That's nice this BBS will be opened in Moscow! Best regards and Happy
New Year!
**Lembit
*Via ProDoor 3.1
(H)elp, End of Message Command?
Date: 12-28-89 (04:47) Number: 106
To: ANDREI Refer: 104
From: JUSSI PULKKINEN Read: NO
Subj: USA Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE
Hi Andrei!
Just to-night I got a voice call from the US of A telling me that it was
impossible to get a line from there.
According to the editor of PC-Computer magazine he got a recorded
message saying 0011 (or whatever it might be) 7 was for Moscow only. I
hope he'll manages the call to this BBS somehow.
Folks, ain't that funny you can't dial here from the States? And still you can
pick up your phone here in Estonia and dial any number in America? Ain't that
funny, indeed?
*Via ProDoor 3.1
Sysop CHAT active at 00:32
Hello, this is SysOp.
Hallo, Andrei. Tanks for calling to us.
>DO YOU HEAR ME?
I see you
>THANKS
Is that in US or in Moscow, I don't understand?
>OK. I'm in Moscow, sure. Do you provide 300bps?
Yes
>Maybe I will use 300 next sessions, too much noise...What is your >number for
voice?
OK. Its 42-63-19 in Tallinn.
>Kak tebia zovut (*what is your name?*)
Menja zovut Jaak. (*my name is Jaak*)
>Hi Jaak., how do you do?
Nice. By the way Ive lived in Moscow for 4 years.
>Great! How to catch you in BBS?
To send message at To: prompt type
To: Jaak Mannik.
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[Note from Andrei: It was very noisy connection. Many {-.@$8%(asd(23fdd 's.]
[Moderator's Note: He then apparently logged off, as per below. PT]
Thanks for calling, Andrei!
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[Moderator's Note: My thanks to Andrei, David, and Fred for sending
along the material for this special issue of the Digest. And I hope
Andrei will extend our warmest regards to Estonia, and wish them a
very happy and propsperous New Year. PT]
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