[comp.dcom.telecom] The Facts About Cellular and Caller ID

covert@covert.enet.dec.com (John R. Covert 24-Feb-1990 0754) (02/24/90)

>There's no reason (none at all), why cellular phones shouldn't
>generate Caller*ID (eg. the person being called FROM a cellular phone
>would get correct Caller*ID displayed on his box), as the 'switch'
>part of a cellular system is pretty much a standard model.

Dead wrong.

Every cellular switch in the U.S. is connected to the local network
just like a PBX.  No phone company is currently offering SS7 (the
prerequisite for Caller ID) as a method of connection for PBXs.  This
means that where there is Caller ID, the number which will appear is
_not_ the cellular number, but rather the number assigned to one of
the DoD trunks.  In fact, when I call the New England Telephone
operator in Boston from a NYNEX or Southwestern Bell cellular phone,
the operator doesn't have the cellular number.

>Further, I'm sure the cellular switch RECEIVES the Caller*ID
>info just fine as well.

Nope.  Sorry.  Again, cellular switches are connected without the
benefit of SS7, and have no way to receive Caller ID info, which can
_only_ be passed on lines (not trunks).

>I don't think there's any provision in the cellular standard for text
>information to be passed to the remote during call setup.

Correct, and it probably won't be added to the standard.

/john

bsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Bob Sherman) (02/26/90)

In article <4329@accuvax.nwu.edu> it is written:

>>There's no reason (none at all), why cellular phones shouldn't
>>generate Caller*ID (eg. the person being called FROM a cellular phone
>>would get correct Caller*ID displayed on his box), as the 'switch'
>>part of a cellular system is pretty much a standard model.

Upon checking here in the Miami, Florida area, where caller ID is
currently under consideration by the PSC, I am told there will be NO
caller ID available on calls made FROM cellular phones or Pay phones.


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c186aj@cory.berkeley.edu (Steve Forrette) (02/26/90)

In article <4329@accuvax.nwu.edu> you write:

>>I don't think there's any provision in the cellular standard for text
>>information to be passed to the remote during call setup.

>Correct, and it probably won't be added to the standard.

>/john

It's also been my experience that ANI is not available for calls FROM
a cellular phone.  Not even 911 knows who you are.  I once was having
problems dialing a long distance call, and the AT&T operator said that
they can't provide call completion assistance for direct dial calls
from cellular since they don't know who you are.

There was a posting in the Digest a couple of months ago that
mentioned that one of the new Motorola hand-helds had a Caller ID
display built into it.  I'm not sure I understand how this would work,
considering the current protocols and MTSO-BOC connections.  Anyone
know?