[comp.dcom.telecom] Mother's Source Code = ??

thomas%mvac23.uucp@udel.edu (Thomas Lapp) (02/27/90)

In the Digest on Monday (V10n127), you write:

> We're told by a deep-throat type that AT&T is on the war path about
> their software, and that 3b2 people in particular are targeted for
> 'counseling' and whatever corrective action is deemed necessary by
> 'the authorities'.
> [...]
> When 'the authorities' come a-calling, with warrant in hand, and their
> credentials in order, they start looking for Mother's source code; 3b2
> stuff and the like, and they keep looking until they find it.

Exactly what are we talking about here, when one says "source code".
I've worked on a 3B2-300 in grad school, and there was a lot of AT&T
copyrighted stuff which came with the system.  Mostly shell scripts
and the like, but AT&T nonetheless.  Does this mean that authorities
are looking for 3B2 systems with AT&T Unix running on them?  That
seems a bit outlandish to me.  ("sorry son, that PC Compatible has
MS-DOS on it.  I'm going to have to take it away from you").  I've
been looking at UUCP maps lately to find out how many systems list
MS-DOS as the operating system, but have run across a lot of 3B2
systems listed as home machines.  That's a pretty big population to
threaten.

Or am I missing something here.  Might we be talking about things like
Unix source code in 'C' for utilities, etc. rather than just run-time
images?  That would seem more likely, but I thought AT&T also licenses
that as well ('course if it were on your machine and you didn't have a
license agreement with AT&T for it....)

                         - tom

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[Moderator's Note: We are discussing people who do not have license
agreements; people who, instead of procurring the software in the
legitimate way have obtained it illicitly over the years.  I started
to say 'in the normal way' above; then I realized that to some people
at AT&T, 'normal' these days = 'rip us off'.  Let's face it: pirated
software, AT&T's or otherwise, has been a scandal for years. I guess
AT&T finally got fed-up with it.  Coincidentally, I got a message
tonight in email from someone saying Mike Andrews wants to talk to me
on the phone, to 'clear up some misunderstandings'....I'll try to
catch up with him Tuesday or Wednesday, and report it here ASAP
afterward.  A few other personal replies have come in on this topic
also; one told me I had unmitigated nerve; two others asking me why
I did not tell 'the complete story'..... meanwhile, Deep-Throat's
original correspondence remains in my files should someone figure they
can put me in the trick-bag somehow.  PT]