[comp.dcom.telecom] Online CCITT Standards -- There is a Way!

John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com> (05/25/90)

rpw3%rigden.wpd@sgi.com (Rob Warnock) wrote:

> The CCITT (and ANSI and IEEE) standards
> are copyrighted, and the standards organizations are largely supported
> through the sales of their standards documents. They would disappove
> strongly of anyone typing in one of their docs and putting it online.

> CCITT/ISO/IEEE/ANSI != RFC. (Too bad.)

> It is often the case that *draft* standards are available for free
> (hardcopy only) while the standard is being developed...  But once the
> standard is finalized, you can't get the drafts (at any price).

It's in the interest of these organizations to make standards
expensive.  It is counter to the interests of the users (who wrote the
standards).

These standards are *all* written by committees made up of whoever
wants to participate.  The standards bureacracies just do [a small
part of] the administrative work involved.  Most of the work is
donated by committee members and their companies, particularly the
chairman.

Suppose the standards committee explicitly placed the final draft copy
into the public domain.  Better yet, the editor of the standard and/or
the committee could copyleft the standard.

If the final draft standard is public domain, the CCITT (et al) will
be able to claim a copyright on the version they publish -- but anyone
will be able to pass around the identical final draft in electronic
form at no cost.  Furthermore, there are actually regulations and/or
laws against companies selling things to the government that are
public domain, so it might end up that the CCITT would be in violation
of those laws in so far as it sold copies of the standard to
governments.

If the final draft standard is copylefted [copyright by someone, with
an explicit notice that it and derived works can only be redistributed
if the recipient can redistribute under the same terms], even the
versions you might buy from CCITT will have to permit copying by
xerography as well as by OCR and posting-to-the-net.

The ownership of a document written by a committee has probably been
addressed somewhere but it's clear it isn't a work-for-hire since the
CCITT, etc, are not paying them to write it.  They're volunteers
working toward a common goal.  So they collectively own it and can
decide on its fate.

I'm sure the first committee to do this would get a lot of pressure
from the standards org but in the end if the committee stands firm,
there is nothing the bureaucraps can do except to refuse the draft
copy, start another committee, and hope it doesn't happen again.  Of
course, the same people can join the new committee -- if it ain't open
to the public, it ain't developing a public standard.  Meanwhile, the
industry will implement the draft, since it will be widely available,
and will start noticing that maybe they don't need these dinosaur
bureacracies getting in their way anyway.