[comp.dcom.telecom] 0+ Calls Where N0X/N1X in Use

cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) (06/01/90)

Doug Reuben and David Tamkin write about 0+ calls in areas which have
N0X/N1X prefixes.  All such areas that I know of require 0+NPA+7D for
all 0+ calls--EXCEPT that 213 area (now 213/818) used to require only
0+7D for 0+ calls within NPA.  There, as I heard from this Digest way
back around 1981 when JSol was Moderator, you needed timeout to
distinguish between, say, 0-413-2345 and 0-413-234-5678.  But buried
in a recent Los Angeles area directory was 0+NPA+7D, apparently for
all 0+ calls.

DREUBEN@eagle.wesleyan.edu) (DOUGLAS SCOTT REUBEN) (06/03/90)

[Moderator's Note: A response to a letter from Carl Moore.  PT]

Carl-

Actually, the 1/1AESS's in Queens and Brooklyn (718) New York allowed
1+ and 0+7 digit dialing for a while, and the same problem came up.

One could dial 0+403-9970, and the payphone would wait for a few more
digits.  (Or you could dial 0-403-555-1111 or whatever, and it went
straight through...)  I found that using the "#" sign at the end of
the seven digit number would tell the exchange to immediately process
the call, rather than wait for the timeout (I think someone on the
Digest mus have mentioned this allready, though..).

The odd thing was that you were also able to dial 1+ 7 digits for
local calls to SOME areas. IE, you could dial 1+336-9950 from a 718
1AESS in Queens to reach (then then 336 1XBar (?)) in Brooklyn, which
was a local call. Yet you weren't allowed to dial 1+ to reach other
exhanges nearby, ie also local (718-643, 398, etc...) Since I wasn't
too familiar with where any of the 'towns' in Brooklyn are, I assumed
that the 1+ calls were historically toll calls, and the ones which
refused 1+ were not. When I found out that some of the exchanges which
accepted 1+ before the seven digits were CLOSER to me than the ones
which did not, I called NY Tel to ask why this happened.

The rep said that they NEVER charged toll rates at any piont in time
to those areas (all of NYC, except Staten Island, was "local" since
the late 1940's, it seems...), and that it was a mistake that the
calls accepted a 1+ first.

A few weeks later, the 1+/0+ thing no longer worked, which I guess
shows you not to complain to NY Tel!

(You can still try the timeout thing though, by dialing 0+AC+#, after
the card # is accepted dial "#", and place a new call to 403-9950. The
Calling Card equipment will wait for a while to see if you time out,
and then put the call through to 403-9950. Of course, you can always
enter the "#" key before you hear the "Thank You" (no "...for using
AT&T" since it's local and it's a 'sequence call'...) which will put
the call through immediatly.

I think you can still do 0+7 digits in the 415 area (Bay Area/SF). But
then I'm not sure whether they have any exchanges that look like area
code in the 415 area yet (ie, N0X/N1X exhcanges)...


Doug