ica.csk%ucla-locus@sri-unix.UUCP (11/14/83)
From: Charley Kline <ica.csk@ucla-locus> OK, we've all heard a lot about the good or bad things berkeley did. I am tired of it all. Without adding my two cents on the issue... Can we get back to real issues? (Things like what belongs in Unix, how should it evolve, bug fixes, new programs, drivers available, new hardware, etc.). Those of you who want to flame more about this issue, why don't you take it somewhere else!
jbray%bbn-unix@sri-unix.UUCP (11/15/83)
From: James Bray <jbray@bbn-unix> I for one am quite interested in any discussion relating to Berkeley vs. Bell, whither Berkeley and wither Bell, &c, and I feel confident a lot of other people are too. It seems to be the most proper sort of thing to discuss on this list, certainly more interesting to me than the latest Versatec Driver, the magic of TROFF, the Vax console (I don't have a Vax). Not that these things shouldn't be discussed, but rather that the general question of BSD vs. BTL is at least as appropriate. Questions: anyone know if Bell is ever going to pick up all Berkeley stuff? The filesystem? Sockets? Virtual Memory (not to be confused with Virtual Reality)? If so, any idea when? Anyone know what will be in sys[6-?]? 4.[3-?]? Rumors on DEC's 4.2+ or other kernels? Anyone know if the 4.2 contract clause that everyone objects to is in the licenses that DEC and Sun sell, or if they swallow it themselves? Guesses as to how far The Ex-Phone Company is willing to go in terms of making things binary-only, restricting use of the name Unix, and other things that serve to remind one that there may be juicier monopolies out there than even telephones? General scurrilous and unfounded rumors? More about "U.S Jets shoot down alien Spacecraft"? I'm just dying to know... --Jim Bray UUCP decvax!bbncca!jbray ARPA jbray@bbncca
kevinw%su-dsn@sri-unix.UUCP (11/15/83)
i agree with the original sender of the letter -- at least as far as
my impressions of this list are concerned. this is a list for maintainers
of unix systems -- fixes of troff, the latest versatec driver, etc. and
not of politics of which unix is better. i was under the impression that
there was an info-unix list which corresponded to the non-system-manager
type of question. i am not against this conversation about bsd-bell but
would prefer not to wade through it to find out new bugs, improvements, etc.
-- Kevin
kevinw@su-dsn