[comp.dcom.telecom] COCOTs and 10xxx Access

DREUBEN@eagle.wesleyan.edu) (DOUGLAS SCOTT REUBEN) (07/26/90)

Although I totally agree with John Higdon's post about COCOTs and the
CPUC which appeared in the Digest a few days ago, I must differ on one
point:

I have actually found a COCOT that allows 10xxx access! And it is NOT
one of those "converted" Pac*Bell payphones which Pac*Bell decided to
abandon and hand over to some slimey COCOT/AOS outfit...

If anyone is driving south from Sacramento on I-80, to the right,
about seven miles before the Vacaville (err ... the "Nut Tree") exit,
there is a Chevron and Unocal-76 gas station. (I think those were the
two...) There are always lots of trucks there. There are actually TWO
real-life COCOTs on the Chevron property that allowed 10xxx access
every time I tried. (Of course, less than two feet away on the Unocal
lot there were those ex-Pac*Bell COCOTs which blocked all 10xxx
calls...). So there do exist at least *two* COCOTs in the USA that
allow 10xxx access. I can just see the people at FCC Informal
Complaints in DC using that as an example, saying "See, we got a few
working ... don't rush us!" Yeah ... right...

Actually, for those not familiar with COCOTs in California, all COCOTs
(at least the ones I've used) use Pac*Bell for their local calling
card and operator services, and you only get into the problem of
blocking when you want to make a long distance call. Of course, many
of them still disable the Touch Tone pad after you enter your card
number, so you can't make sequence calls or tone in digits to
voicemail or an answering machine.

It also seems that all Safeway stores in the Bay Area now use private
payphones, as I couldn't find any Safeway with a real Pac*Bell phone
on their property.  (However, the one off of I-80 in Truckee has a
couple of Pac*Bells.)

Accordingly, I just shop at Lucky's!


Doug

dreuben@eagle.wesleyan.edu
dreuben@wesleyan.bitnet

john@bovine.ati.com (John Higdon) (07/26/90)

"DOUGLAS SCOTT REUBEN)" <DREUBEN@eagle.wesleyan.edu> writes:

> It also seems that all Safeway stores in the Bay Area now use private
> payphones, as I couldn't find any Safeway with a real Pac*Bell phone
> on their property.  (However, the one off of I-80 in Truckee has a
> couple of Pac*Bells.)

> Accordingly, I just shop at Lucky's!

And just where will you shop when YOUR local Lucky's installs COCOTs
by U.S. Commercial Telephone#Corp. (sic)? These are most vile. Pad
dies after call completion. No way to get AT&T operator. No way to
reach repair/refund except 8 to 5 weekdays. Wants $1.05 for 811-XXXX
(free call). No 950. I have written a strongly worded letter to Lucky
headquarters.

The COCOT at my Safeway, on the other hand, is somewhat easier to live
with. Pad stays active. Phone is easily tricked into giving the AT&T
operator. Allows 811-XXXX. Repair/refund available on weekends. 950
allowed.

If it comes down to the battle of COCOTs, Safeway wins!


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