[comp.dcom.telecom] Pinging Cellular Phones

"John R. Covert 10-Aug-1990 1055" <covert@covert.enet.dec.com> (08/10/90)

John Gilmore writes:
 
> The US cellular telephone standard defines a way to "ping" a cellular
> phone without making it ring.
> If I ever get a cellular phone, this 'ping' will be one of the first
> things I reprogram...

No you won't.  It's not a programmable feature on most phones.  You see,
the way incoming calls work is as follows:

	1. All cell sites send "NPA NXX-XXXX, please report".  This is
		what you called a 'ping'.
	2. Your phone responds.  It does not ring.
	3. The cell site which hears your response sets up the call.

If the call can't be set up (for any number of reasons, the most
obvious being that the cell site which heard your response is out of
channels), your phone never rings.  Obviously, if "they" want to track
your whereabouts, they just do step one, wait for your phone to
respond, and do nothing else.  You could only disable this feature by
disabling all incoming calls.

Dave Levenson writes:
 
>If you re-program this feature, you will probably be unable to receive
>incoming calls when you're roaming.

Dave, you're talking about a different feature: autologin.  This is
the feature that causes your phone to identify itself when it travels
into a new service area (new system ID).  It, too, is done on request,
but the request is constantly being sent along with the system id
information, not as a specific request to a specific phone.

If "they" are out to get you, "they" would certainly not rely on this
feature to track you, since you only log in each time you cross a
system ID boundary.  "They" would arrange for your phone to receive
incoming 'pings' but never go to the final step of starting ringing.

If you don't want your location tracked, don't turn on your phone.


john

nagle@uunet.uu.net> (08/12/90)

>followed by call setups, you could determine if any user location
>activity is taking place.

      It's not clear if you're entitled to monitor the cellular control
cqhannel under the ECPA.  Monitoring the voice channels is prohibited, but
the control channel may be OK.  An opinion here would be useful.

      Actually, it would be useful if someone monitored the control
channel in major cities and produced independent statistics on usage.
This would help in valuing cellular telephone properties and in
evaluating the validity of cellular operators requests for more
bandwidth.


John Nagle