Manuel J. Moguilevsky <manuel%psi#telenet.astarg%ssl.span@noao.edu> (08/07/90)
Telephone directories in Argentina and Network Information (free service). 07222211103127 [Moderator's Note: The above is the way I received this message. He did not say if the number given is a phone number, data network address, or what. And it may be free within Argentina, but I'll betcha it'll show up as an international call on your phone bill from anywhere else!! By the way, how do you like *his* address? Isn't that a hoot! :) PT]
cmoore@brl.mil (VLD/VMB) (08/10/90)
I have exchanged a few messages with Manuel. That one line message you put in earlier from him is explained further here; the NUA (exact meaning I am not sure of) is the number you published. I have not decided how this will be cleared up in telecom (I do have a list of numbers mailed to me by Manuel). I am making no comments about grammar, as Manuel's everyday language is probably not English. To: Manuel J. Moguilevsky <manuel%psi#telenet.astarg%ssl.span@noao.edu> Subject: Re: Yellow Pages in Argentina I tried 011-54-7222211103127 and it did not work. (011 is international access, and 54 is the Argentina country code, and I left off the 0 in front of the rest of the number shown here.) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 90 15:11:30 MST From: Manuel J. Moguilevsky <manuel%psi#telenet.astarg%ssl.span@noao.edu> I don't know the exact translation for NUA to English. I want to mean the access number through the networks, not a telephone number. [Moderator's Note: Then I guess 07222211103127 is the NUA? I tried to connect via my local Telenet node, but it would not take collect connections, so I tried no further. PT]
Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@brl.mil> (08/10/90)
Here is the entire message, phone numbers and all, from Manuel. Yes, you have mention of NUA further down (if you have an editor which you can use to search for "NUA" string). Date: Thu, 9 Aug 90 12:48:05 MST From: Manuel J. Moguilevsky <manuel%psi#telenet.astarg%ssl.span@noao.edu> Subject: Re: Yellow Pages in Argentina To: cmoore@BRL.MIL >Did you send your note to telecom? I don't see it in the headers. I only sent one line telling about it, probably it is of interest of somebody. >>If you want, I can send you the telephone numbers access for Arpac. >OK, although I don't think I'll be doing anything on that computer. >On the number I tried, I apparently was indeed supposed to delete >that leading zero; however, I did not know to insert the 1 (city >code for Buenos Aires). These are the telephone Arpac numbers in Buenos Aires: (you have to dial from USA as: 011-54-1-xxx-xxxx **** SISTEMA DE INFORMACION ARPAC **** ACCESOS TELEFONICOS DIRECTOS LOCALIDAD NUMEROS VELOCIDAD (BPS) ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ BUENOS AIRES -CENTRAL CUYO (953) 953-7533 300/300 1200/1200 953-7603 300/300 1200/1200 953-3390 300/300 1200/1200 953-3490 300/300 1200/1200 953-3705 300/300 1200/1200 953-3805 300/300 1200/1200 953-3905 300/300 1200/1200 953-7313 75/1200 953-7793 75/1200 --CENTRAL REPUBLICA 394-5349 300/300 (394)/(325) 325-6817 300/300 325-6818 300/300 325-6820 300/300 325-6821 300/300 325-6822 300/300 325-6824 300/300 394-5052 300/300 1200/1200 394-5258 300/300 1200/1200 394-5384 300/300 1200/1200 394-5430 300/300 1200/1200 394-5548 300/300 1200/1200 394-5647 300/300 1200/1200 394-5725 300/300 1200/1200 394-5765 300/300 1200/1200 394-5834 300/300 1200/1200 --CENTRAL PIEDRAS (362) 362-4609 300/300 362-4796 300/300 362-4043 300/300 1200/1200 362-4103 300/300 1200/1200 362-4723 300/300 1200/1200 The NUA of the yellow pages: 0 7222 211103127 The zero in the front of the number is optional (I don't know if you have to use it from USA). 7222 means Argentina. ENTEL means Empresa Nacional de Telecomunicaciones. This is a log of this service: * ENTEL - SISTEMA DE CONSULTA * CUALQUIER SUGERENCIA EFECTUARLA AL NRO. TX 29000 USTED POSEE UN MONITOR DE : OCHENTA COLUMNAS (8) CUARENTA COLUMNAS (4) FINALIZAR (F) AYUDA (?) INGRESE UNA OPCION : 8 DESEA : CONSULTAR GUIA TELEX (G) GUIA TELEFONICA 110 (T) INFORMACION SOBRE RED ARPAC (A) FINALIZAR (F) AYUDA (?) INGRESE UNA OPCION : ? TIPEANDO : G : INGRESARA AL MENU INICIAL DE CONSULTA DE GUIA TELEX A : INGRESARA AL MENU INICIAL DE INFORMACION DE ARPAC F : FINALIZA LA CONSULTA ? : ESTA PANTALLA INGRESE UNA OPCION : f GRACIAS POR USAR NUESTROS SERVICIOS NAT9995 - NATURAL SESSION TERMINATED -------------------------------------------- Manuel J. Moguilevsky Buenos Aires - ARGENTINA MANUEL%PSI#ASTARG%SSL.SPAN@NOAO.EDU SSL$SPAN::PSI%TELENET.ASTARG::MANUEL PSI MAIL address: 07222211100717 072222111030218 MCI: 4204071 WUI UW FAX: (541)786-0344
"Joel B. Levin" <levin@bbn.com> (08/11/90)
From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@brl.mil> >I tried 011-54-7222211103127 and it did not work. . . . >[Moderator's Note: Then I guess 07222211103127 is the NUA? . . . ] I don't know "NUA" either, but a quick check of CCITT Recommendation X.121 shows that the country code assigned to Argentina is 722, so the "7222" part is the DNIC (Data Network Identification Code) of an X.25 network in Argentina, and the "211103127" part is the address of a host on that network. Or this could apply to some communications network who has adopted the X.121 addressing conventions (much as Telenet adopted the telco numbering plan for its internal addressing). /JBL levin@bbn.com ...!bbn!levin (617)873-3463
Robert Ullmann <Ariel@relay.prime.com> (08/11/90)
About that number in Argentina: The leading "0" is some net's idea of
an access code, like the "1" for long distance in the U.S.
So the DNIC is 7222, number 211103127.
I tried it, not collect (nc). Connected okay, but a bit slowly. It
_disabled_ pad break-out! I had to eventually wait for a timeout. I
didn't find anything it understood, except that when I guessed from
the error message syntax that it was an IBM, and typed LOGOFF, it
stopped answering, except for repeating the prompt over and over.
Robert Ullmann
Prime Computer, Inc.
---------- session script: ----------
ok, netlink
[NETLINK Rev. 22.1.0 Copyright (c) 1989, Prime Computer, Inc.]
@ nc :7222211103127
7222211103127 Connected
PAAMNZAD"UN"9::
N
NA00NVADMMANDPGAMDSNSNBAY.
N
NA00NVADMMANDPGAMDSNSNBAY.
N
NA00NVADMMANDPGAMDSNSNBAY.
N
N
NA000GAMMANDMMANDSMUSSAHAHAA.
N
N
NA00NVADMMANDPGAMDSNSNBAY.
N
NA00NVADMMANDPGAMDSNSNBAY.
N
NA00NVADMMANDPGAMDSNSNBAY.
N
N
N
@
N
N
S.USUAAAPANSNUNA
NAVANNN5MNUS
7222211103127 Disconnected
@ q
ok, como -e
[Moderator's Note: If you call via your local Telenet node as I did,
then the leading zero is required to indicate 'international call',
and collect charges are not accepted. PAT]manuel%psi#telenet.astarg%ssl.span@noao.edu (Manuel J. Moguilevsky) (08/13/90)
Digest readers have written: >>The NUA of the yellow pages: 0 7222 211103127 >which seems to indicate that NUA is an abbreviation of some sort. >(with N standing for Numero?) About the NUA, it means IDN in English: IDN = Identification Data Network (121 CCITT RECOMENDATION) DNIC = Data Network Identification Code NTN = Network Terminal Number IDN = DNIC + NTN Manuel