[net.unix-wizards] Looking for VAX microcoding tools

tas@unc.UUCP (Tim Seaver) (11/18/83)

I've heard that VMS has some tools for microcoding VAXen.
Has anyone developed anything along those lines for UNIX
or even investigated the possibility?

henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) (11/23/83)

I'm not sure about the 750 and below, but I saw a study several years
ago which implied that microprogramming the 780 was a dead loss.  Seems
the user-microcode feature on the 780 is basically a marketing ploy, not
a useful piece of hardware.  The dispatching overhead for user-defined
instructions (i.e., the time needed for the 780 to realize that it's
got a user-microcode instruction and call your microcode) is so large
that your user-defined instruction better be doing something really heavy
or else it will be a net speed *loss*.

I have also heard that it is nearly impossible to get documentation from
DEC describing how 780 microcode works, even if you buy a 780 with the
writeable-microcode box!
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				Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
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