[comp.dcom.telecom] Tail Gunner Joe

rkh@mtune.att.com (09/07/90)

Referring to Joseph Abernathy of the {Houston Chronicle}, who'd
written a piece back in May about how some H.S. student 'suddenly
found himself' in one of the alt.sex groups, how MIT was a 'known
storehouse of pornography', and how all this filth was being carried
cross-country on publicly-funded networking....  :-( :-(


Bob Halloran

Internet: rkh@mtune.dptg.att.com		UUCP: att!mtune!rkh
Disclaimer: If you think AT&T would have ME as a spokesman, you're crazed.


[Moderator's Note: Thanks for introducing him. He sounds like a real
winner for sure!  But I think the M.I. of T. would only qualify as a
'storehouse of pornography' if you included Telecom Archives!  :)
Psst, for a good time, ftp lcs.mit.edu, then cd telecom-archives.  PAT]

telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (A Friend) (09/10/90)

[Moderator's Note: I don't usually publish anonymous messages, but I
know who sent this, and agreed to do it this one time.  PAT] 


*** You probably don't want to publish this, at least under my name  ***
*** that is ;-)                                                      ***

>> [Moderator's Note: Who is this Tailgunner Joe person? I've seen a
>> couple messages about him in news.admin but haven't paid attention.
>> Will someone please explain it further?   PAT]

>[Moderator's Note: That's what I was told earlier. He must really
>think he is something. Maybe if he keeps up his good work, he will get
>promoted to the newspaper's telemarketing subscription department, or
>maybe even a position as a classified ad counselor/salesperson, taking
>ads over the telephone.

Pat, 

Don't bait this guy, it's not beyond his power to publish a nice
little article about comp.dcom.telecom and how it has described
ripping-off the phone company in several ways.

Now, we all know better, but if you had read any of the past articles
he's written *and had published* in his newpaper, you would understand
that it's possible to pervert just about anything into the kind of
stupid sensationalism that his newspaper seems to thrive on.

This is one bit of fire best left alone.


A Friend


[Moderator's Note: Actually, I did read something of his today.  He
wrote a piece on Operation Sun Devil a few days ago, and at least this
time around seemed to be reasonably fair and even-handed in his
report.  He was very sympathetic in this article to Len Rose and Craig
Neidorf. Perhaps his superiors at the newspaper got on his case. He
may have even been educated a little after enough people complained
about his previous disasters. You can read the article yourself in the
current issue of our companion publication, Computer Underground
Digest. If you'd like a copy and do not have a subscription, write to
the Moderators at: tk0jut2.niu.bitnet.

As for Joe making trouble here, well, we'll have to deal with that
when it happens. He's not the only one with a typewriter and a forum,
you know. I guess I'm not terribly impressed. Frankly my dears, I
don't give a damn.  PAT]

len@uunet.uu.net> (09/10/90)

Pat, give this guy a chance ... I had a long series of talks with him,
and told him initially that I was scared to talk given his previous
performance. However, he impressed me by admitting he was wrong and has
since learned alot more about the net in general. They are to be commended
for at least trying to correct past mistakes. I don't think we'll see 
anymore yellow journalism from this person. (I came to this conclusion
before the article came out)

For what it's worth.


Len

levine@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Leonard P Levine) (09/10/90)

 From article <11943@accuvax.nwu.edu>, by telecom@eecs.nwu.edu (A Friend):

> [Moderator's Note: Who is this Tailgunner Joe person? I've seen a
> couple messages about him in news.admin but haven't paid attention.
> Will someone please explain it further?   PAT]

Just for the record, tailgunner joe was Senator Joe McCarthy of
Wisconsin who was known for his distortion of the facts in the '50s.

He was in the air force during the war and was reputed to have shot
off the tail of his own plane.  His enemies gave him that name from
that story.


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peter@ficc.ferranti.com (peter da silva) (09/11/90)

No, the line is "publish and be damned".


Peter da Silva.   
+1 713 274 5180.  
peter@ferranti.com

jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) (09/12/90)

[Moderator's Note: Mr. Townsend and I have discussed his idea of
genderless pronouns, as shown below. I do not care for them.  PAT] 


I have attached another article from Joe Abernathy for the Digest.
This is the infamous "Internet Pornography Ring" article.  Credit for
the electronic copy goes to "Bitslicer".  Se typed it with hir own
little fingers -- please leave the credit at the top if you distribute
it.

With regards to the story's errors:  If it's an obvious spelling
or punctuation error, it's not the Chron's fault.  Style, format and
content problems *are* Abernathy's fault.  Almost-degreed journalist
that I am, I can not find it in my heart to be an apologist for
this particular story. :-)


J. Eric Townsend -- University of Houston Dept. of Mathematics (713) 749-2120
Internet: jet@uh.edu    Bitnet: jet@UHOU    Skate UNIX(r)


[Moderator's Note: I've forwarded your article direct to the Telecom
Archives, where it resides as 'abernathy.internet.story' for anyone
interested.  PAT]