watcher@ndmath.math.nd.edu> (09/23/90)
Here at Notre Dame (I don't go to school here, just visit), all the telephone service in dormitories is handled by CTI (meaning CTI-installed switches and CTI-provided 1+ long distance). Apparently students can't get AT&T (or other) long distance provided via 1+; they have to place operator-assisted calls (and pay rates for same). Is this strictly legal? I haven't checked to see whether 10XXX dialing is permitted, but I would gather that it is not, given the state of affairs. Can anything be done about this, considering that it is indeed a campus, and as such the facilities are either privately owned or in some other sort of legal grey area which exempts them from having to provide Equal Access? James Watcher (yes, that's what it says on my driver's license!) nstar!watcher@ndmath.math.nd.edu (fast) PO Box 875 Notre Dame, IN 46556 (slow) [Moderator's Note: Not long ago a thread here in the Digest discussed blocking of 10xxx from privately owned switches. I maintained it was not legal to block access (after all, the court order called for it to work that way), and a couple special issues of the Digest were devoted to rebuttals from folks saying they should have the right to run their switches the way they wanted. That's where it seems to stand at this point. A university would seem to be a re-seller of long distance service (except for its own administrative calls) and probably would be in a different category than a business in which all the long distance calls placed were presumably administrative, or business related. PAT]
dittman@skbat.csc.ti.com (Eric Dittman) (09/25/90)
> Here at Notre Dame (I don't go to school here, just visit), all the > telephone service in dormitories is handled by CTI (meaning > CTI-installed switches and CTI-provided 1+ long distance). Apparently > students can't get AT&T (or other) long distance provided via 1+; they > have to place operator-assisted calls (and pay rates for same). Is > this strictly legal? I haven't checked to see whether 10XXX dialing is > permitted, but I would gather that it is not, given the state of > affairs. Can anything be done about this, considering that it is > indeed a campus, and as such the facilities are either privately owned > or in some other sort of legal grey area which exempts them from > having to provide Equal Access? My brother attends the University of Alabama and they have MCI. To save money he usually calls my parents collect, but when he calls me, he calls direct unless there's an emergency, because I don't accept any non-emergency calls from MCI or Sprint. If he does call direct, I just get the number he's at and call him back. He's tried 10XXX before without success. Eric Dittman Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility dittman@skitzo.csc.ti.com dittman@skbat.csc.ti.com Disclaimer: I don't speak for Texas Instruments or the Component Test Facility. I don't even speak for myself. [Moderator's Note: A couple times I have inadvertently accepted collect calls which arrived via Sprint or MCI. Talk about a ripoff! The bill was unbelievable. When you get a collect call, *always* before accepting ask the operator 'who are you', and request time and charges afterward. Avoid surprises later on! PAT]
smk@attunix.att.com (S M Krieger) (09/25/90)
> Here at Notre Dame (I don't go to school here, just visit), all the > telephone service in dormitories is handled by CTI (meaning > CTI-installed switches and CTI-provided 1+ long distance). Apparently > students can't get AT&T (or other) long distance provided via 1+; they > have to place operator-assisted calls (and pay rates for same). At West Chester University, where my daughter is enrolled, there is also no 1+ calling allowed. The phone system does support 10XXX LD carrier selection (i.e., after "9" to get an outside line, 10XXX can be dialed before the "0"; I have verified that it ends up going to the selected LD company). What I did to help ease the cost is to sign up for Reach Out America and paid the extra $2.00 for the calling card option. As I understand the way it works, the time we can make the cheapest interstate calls is pushed back to 10 pm, and any interstate calling card call made during the plan's hours do not include the 80 cents surcharge. All I asked my daughter to do was to find out if her friends' parents won't mind their phones ringing at 10:10 pm. (Disclaimer: what I am posting about Reach Out America is based solely on my being an AT&T customer. Although I am an employee of AT&T, my work is entirely with UNIX System V development and does not involve any of the company's long distance telephone business). Stan Krieger Summit, NJ ...!att!attunix!smk