SKASS@drew.bitnet (Steve Kass) (12/30/90)
Lotus Development Corporation has a new product due out in 1991, called "Household Marketplace." It's a database on CDROM. It has the estimated income and a profile of the buying habits of 120 million US residents. That's a high percentage of the US population -- the odds are pretty good that YOU are in the Lotus database. A Lotus spokesman has said that the company is concerned about privacy issues, so to help prevent misuse of the data only legitimate businesses can get the disk. With easy access to a laser printer, a POBox, and/or a fax machine, however, it is hard to see how Lotus can determine the legitimacy of anyone, however, and I'm sure that with minor effort almost anyone will be able to purchase Marketplace. The cost, by the way, is under $1000 with quarterly updates available. The database does not contain any of the data covered by the Fair Credit Practices Act so Lotus is under no legal obligation to let you see what they are saying about you. In fact, during interviews they have said that there is NO WAY for an individual to review their personal data, nor are there any provisions to make corrections on what is recorded. Lotus will remove anyone from their database who writes to them. Send a letter to: Lotus Development Corp. Attn: Market Name Referral Service 55 Cambridge Parkway Cambridge, MA 02142 ----- additional comments by Larry Seiler ----- Folks, I recently forwarded a message about a new Lotus product -- a database on CDROM of 120 million US residents with their estimated incomes and buying profiles. Someone questioned whether Lotus is really doing this, so I checked by calling Lotus and speaking to someone in pre-sales service. It really is true. Lotus is still gearing up to sell their "Household Marketplace" product, and it really does give information on individual people, not just regional statistical summaries. I learned the following (and I asked for literature, so I'll soon know even more): 1) Yes, it really *DOES* have names and addresses of individuals. 2) They have divided up the database by regions, and you specify the region you are interested in when you buy the product. That explains how they could have 120 million people in their database and still sell you just 1 CD (or a few) for your purchase price. 3) They also have a "Business Marketplace" CD with data on seven million US businesses. I forebore yelling at the sales-type who handled my call, merely asking if there was a place to write with comments about the service. Apparently the sales types haven't heard of the controversy the product is raising, since she replied that several different reports can be generated by the product, and some of them do have space for comments. GREAT! So not only do they have the audacity to print an estimate of your income (which could be quite damaging if they get it wrong, and is an intrusion into your privacy if they get it right), they also have space on the disk for arbitrary comments about you -- and they'll be selling this data in volume to mass marketing companies across the country! In interviews, Lotus has said that individuals will NOT be able to correct their own entries, or even see what they are. I didn't try to confirm this in my call to Lotus, but I did confirm that the person who reported it -- Rich Salz of BBN -- has an excellent reputation on the internet. Also, everything he said that I checked with Lotus is absolutely accurate. Further, the {Wall Street Journal} has reported on it -- saying that the database has ages, marital status, and other such personal data as well. So I believe it, and you should to, since it is going to affect your life. Remember -- a database of 120 million US residents comes to almost half the people in the country. Considering that the database is probably biased toward those with higher incomes, the chances are *really good* that anyone able to electronically read this message is in the database. What can you do about it? A couple of things. Lotus has said that they'll omit from their database anyone who asks. Therefore, start by writing to the address below. Tell them that you don't want to be in the database, and tell them exactly what you think of their database. Second, pass this message along to anyone whom you think might care. To me, this is not just a matter of privacy. Lotus is going to sell information behind our backs -- we are not allowed to dispute their data or even know what it is. Worse, Lotus is going to sell rumors about our income. Still worse, they will do it on a scale never before achieved. This should not be tolerated. Please help to stop Lotus. Thanks, Larry Seiler [Moderator's Note: The {Wall Street Journal}, November 13, 1990 discussed this in detail in a story on page B-1 entitled "Lotus - New Program Spurs Fears Privacy Could be Undermined". WSJ has in the past complained about TELECOM Digest reprinting their stuff, so it is omitted here. See my reply in this issue, 'Much Ado About Nothing". I hope telecom-priv will pick up this discussion at this point and allow it to continue there. PAT]